In this podcast, PebblePost’s VP of Marketing, Celeste Giampetro, talks with Dave about the importance of defining a good mission statement, why Marketing needs more generalists than specialists now, how to develop cross-functional teams, and leading with vulnerability. During the conversation, they also spent time discussing different leadership techniques that will help you get the most out of your team.
00:08 Podcast TLDR
There are lots of podcasts about Agile out there and each of them has something valuable to offer to the community. But a few weeks ago, a new kind of Agile podcast launched. John Le Drew is the creator of “The Agile Path”, a long form NPR style podcast… (think Serial for Agile). In this interview, John shares the story of how he ended up working on the podcast, what it was like creating it, some of his current projects as well as details about the process he follows in creating the podcasts and his favorite gear.
If you are interested in podcasting, block out some time for this one, there is a lot of valuable stuff in here.
00:01 Podcast Intro
LINKS FROM THE PODCAST
Lisa Hershman At SG2017 - Scaling, Certification Changes and Top Initiatives at the Scrum Alliance
Scrum Alliance Interim CEO Lisa Hershman shared some time at the 2017 Scrum Gathering in San Diego to talk about the top initiatives being worked on at the Scrum Alliance, including their partnership with Large Scale Scrum, changes to the certification programs and more.
The Trust Artist, Olaf Lewitz, along with his partner, Christine Neidhardt, are gearing ready for their upcoming TrustTemenos Certified Agile Leadership trainings. Certified Agile Leadership trainings are a new, advanced level of training classes being offered through the Scrum Alliance. In this interview Olaf and I discuss the reason for his TrustTemenos CAL class, how it can help people become better Agile leaders, and the value of Certified Agile Leadership.
Safety is a very hot topic in the Agile space right now. During our conversation about safety, Olaf shared one of the most powerful things I have heard during an interview this year:
“When you talk to people about trust, it rises. When you talk to people about safety, they get scared.”
Every conversation I have with Olaf leaves me more aware and (I hope) a bit smarter than I was when it began. I hope you will get as much value from listening to this as I did from recording the conversation.
And you can find links to Olaf’s upcoming classes and events, as well as his contact info, below the show notes.
00:07 Podcast Intro
01:57 An overview of Agile Leadership Training
04:48 A skeptical response to the idea of Agile Leadership Training and Olaf’s response
07:16 Developing a thinking model to understand what we need and how that drives our actions
09:11 The power of metaphor in leadership and Dave’s aversion to boats
11:03 Giving people tools to grow their awareness of how they show up
11:34 These classes cover advanced leadership topics - not the basics
12:16 “If you trust in yourself… you will still get beaten by people”
13:05 Skepticism is an important part of any class and any transition
13:32 It’s about being intentional and aware
15:23 There is a specific type of learning that involves being uncomfortable because what you believe is challenged
15:57 Extending the question of leadership beyond work and helping them understand more about their awareness and intention
17:00 Olaf shares a story about his first experience working as a boss
21:29 The advice Olaf about give his 29 year-old self about being a boss for the firs time
22:23 It’s okay to ask for help
24:05 A question about safety and what it means to create a safe space
25:42 When you talk to people about trust, it rises, when you talk to people about safety, they get scared
27:22 What is Certified Agile Leadership Training? What level of knowledge experience do you need to attend?
28:08 What will CAL training do for a leader/manager in an Agile organization?
29:28 Where to learn more about Olaf’s upcoming classes, where you can see him speak and how to get in touch with him if you have questions.
Links from the Podcast
Showing Up - the book written by Olaf and Christine https://leanpub.com/showingup
TrustTemenos Leadership Academy: https://trusttemenos.de
Upcoming CAL Trainings - https://trusttemenos.de/certified-agile-leadership-cal1/
Olaf’s session at the 2017 Scrum Gathering San Diego is called: Product Owner: Mapping Dramas and Dreams and it will be held in the Harbor Island 1 room on Monday, April 10 from 1 PM until 2:15 PM For more info on the Scrum Gathering: https://www.scrumalliance.org/sgcal
A few weeks ago Don Kim put up a blog post challenging the value of certifications. I reached out to Don in hopes of doing an interview about it and found out he’s also written a new book “I think Therefore I Plan”. In this interview we discuss the pros and cons of different certifications, taking an artisan approach to managing projects as well as Don’s new book.
You can find Don’s book here: http://amzn.to/2n7VEHu
You can find Don’s blog post about certifications here: http://bit.ly/2okDUZA
00:07 Interview Start
00:30 What is a Human APEE
03:38 What is an Artisan approach to Project Management
05:15 Don’s Philosophy of Project Management
07:22 Trying to slow down and do less
08:21 Don explains his way of approaching project work and the reason for the book
10:56 How has the traditional vs. Agile debate changed over the past few years
12:53 Seeing the value in every project you work on - regardless of how you got it
16:15 The downside of certifications
17:29 The positive aspects of certifications
18:03 There is more to project management training than just PMP certification
19:48 Making the case for the value certifications can provide and how it can be misunderstood
23:22 Does it make sense for people to want to have a way of gauging their professional achievement?
23:55 What Don expected from PMP certification and how he went deep with the Kerzner to get the most learning out of it (instead of just passing the test)
26:41 Is it the certification that is an issue, or the way people interpret it as an end point rather than a beginning
27:50 An overview of the approach Don’s book takes towards the art of Project Management
30:56 Where you can find Don’s book and how you can reach him with follow up questions
31:54 Podcast Ends