Project Management Central

Please login or join to subscribe to this thread

Project Lifecycle
Network:486



Working in a Project where Scope, time and cost are modified as the project progresses (design stage). Have anyone worked in this kind of projects? Is this adaptive life cylce?
Sort By:
Page: 1 2 next>
Network:1612



By definition except for few very specific type of products where you have to follow a sequential project life cycle (is not waterfall, is sequential, some people have a confusion on that) scope/time/cost will be modified along the life cycle. Why? Because estimations (see Barry Bohem´s Cone of Uncertainty) and mainly because all you define in a project is based on product/service/result to create definition. Sequential project life cycle is the only one where you will do not have this type of situation. Just to give you some examples I have the opportunity to work I can name geostationary satellite, nuclear plant, medical devices where the human bein life was in danger in case of mulfunction. Adaptative life cycle is a process model and inside it you will find several life cycle process: iterative, incremental, iterative-incremental (PMI has named it agile), V, Spiral for example. But the issue is not the life cycle. Is the product/service/result from where you define all related to project. If the product/service/result change then all related to your project change.
...
1 reply by Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
Aug 10, 2018 10:25 AM
Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
thanks. product/service/result are not changed
Network:78



We can refer to the definition before answering the question:-

TPM = traditional project management
It has a project life cycle (plan- driven approach) (predictive)= waterfall

Scope, time and cost determined in early phases of life cycle.



APM = Agile Project management
It has a project life cycle (change -driven approach) (Adaptive)
Scope is also determined in early phased of life cycle BUT the time and cost progressively (routinely) modified (just like iterative and incremental life cycle).

From Above Definitions I can see your project is more adaptive or at least hybrid life cycle.

BR,
Mansour
...
1 reply by Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
Aug 10, 2018 10:27 AM
Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
Have you worked in this type of project life cycle? Share your experience with respect to time and result of your project
Network:486



Aug 10, 2018 9:36 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
...
By definition except for few very specific type of products where you have to follow a sequential project life cycle (is not waterfall, is sequential, some people have a confusion on that) scope/time/cost will be modified along the life cycle. Why? Because estimations (see Barry Bohem´s Cone of Uncertainty) and mainly because all you define in a project is based on product/service/result to create definition. Sequential project life cycle is the only one where you will do not have this type of situation. Just to give you some examples I have the opportunity to work I can name geostationary satellite, nuclear plant, medical devices where the human bein life was in danger in case of mulfunction. Adaptative life cycle is a process model and inside it you will find several life cycle process: iterative, incremental, iterative-incremental (PMI has named it agile), V, Spiral for example. But the issue is not the life cycle. Is the product/service/result from where you define all related to project. If the product/service/result change then all related to your project change.
thanks. product/service/result are not changed
...
1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Aug 10, 2018 3:23 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
...
If product/service/result to be created is not changed then is nothing to change in the project. This is critcal to understand. If not then the project will fail.
Network:486



Aug 10, 2018 10:16 AM
Replying to MANSOUR THABET ALQUBATY
...
We can refer to the definition before answering the question:-

TPM = traditional project management
It has a project life cycle (plan- driven approach) (predictive)= waterfall

Scope, time and cost determined in early phases of life cycle.



APM = Agile Project management
It has a project life cycle (change -driven approach) (Adaptive)
Scope is also determined in early phased of life cycle BUT the time and cost progressively (routinely) modified (just like iterative and incremental life cycle).

From Above Definitions I can see your project is more adaptive or at least hybrid life cycle.

BR,
Mansour
Have you worked in this type of project life cycle? Share your experience with respect to time and result of your project
Network:937



Muthukrishnan -

This is a type of progressive elaboration, but to better answer the question, when are your cost, schedule and scope baselines defined and approved?

Kiron
...
1 reply by Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
Aug 11, 2018 7:16 AM
Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
cost, schedule and scope baselines defined at the beginning of projects. When it develops, the scope, cost and schedule are modified.
Network:1612



Aug 10, 2018 10:25 AM
Replying to Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
thanks. product/service/result are not changed
If product/service/result to be created is not changed then is nothing to change in the project. This is critcal to understand. If not then the project will fail.
...
1 reply by Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
Aug 11, 2018 7:17 AM
Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
Yes, it falls under sequential project lifecycle
Network:486



Aug 10, 2018 11:21 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
...
Muthukrishnan -

This is a type of progressive elaboration, but to better answer the question, when are your cost, schedule and scope baselines defined and approved?

Kiron
cost, schedule and scope baselines defined at the beginning of projects. When it develops, the scope, cost and schedule are modified.
...
1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Aug 11, 2018 10:35 AM
Kiron Bondale
...
Defining baselines for all legs of the triple constraint at the beginning of a project before sufficient exploration of uncertainty has happened is guaranteeing that either you will carry variances till the end of the project OR you will be having to re-baseline at least once.

I wouldn't call that adaptive, rather it just reflects a lack of project management discipline :-) !

Kiron
Network:486



Aug 10, 2018 3:23 PM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
...
If product/service/result to be created is not changed then is nothing to change in the project. This is critcal to understand. If not then the project will fail.
Yes, it falls under sequential project lifecycle
...
1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Aug 11, 2018 7:36 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
...
I saw you are working in somthing related to Pharma. I have been worked in that domain. My personal experience was we had to follow a standard life cycle to get agreement from the the agency of the government responsible for the regulation of food, medicines, cosmetics, medical devices, biological products and blood derivatives. The life cycle is an industry standard and it is sequential.
Network:1612



Aug 11, 2018 7:17 AM
Replying to Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
Yes, it falls under sequential project lifecycle
I saw you are working in somthing related to Pharma. I have been worked in that domain. My personal experience was we had to follow a standard life cycle to get agreement from the the agency of the government responsible for the regulation of food, medicines, cosmetics, medical devices, biological products and blood derivatives. The life cycle is an industry standard and it is sequential.
...
1 reply by Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
Aug 12, 2018 7:23 AM
Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
Yes, Thanks for explanation
Network:937



Aug 11, 2018 7:16 AM
Replying to Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
cost, schedule and scope baselines defined at the beginning of projects. When it develops, the scope, cost and schedule are modified.
Defining baselines for all legs of the triple constraint at the beginning of a project before sufficient exploration of uncertainty has happened is guaranteeing that either you will carry variances till the end of the project OR you will be having to re-baseline at least once.

I wouldn't call that adaptive, rather it just reflects a lack of project management discipline :-) !

Kiron
...
2 replies by Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
Aug 12, 2018 7:40 AM
Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
I got that. But, when it comes to redefining these (with no more variances), what would it be called?

if this kind of mgmt is not followed, that means PMP has not considered this situation.
Aug 12, 2018 7:40 AM
Muthukrishnan Ramakrishnan
...
I got that. But, when it comes to redefining these (with no more variances), what would it be called?

if this kind of mgmt is not followed, that means PMP has not considered this situation.
Page: 1 2 next>  

Please login or join to reply

Content ID:
ADVERTISEMENTS

I'm lactose intolerent. I have no patience for lactose and I won't stand for it.

- Jerry Seinfeld

ADVERTISEMENT

Sponsors