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I am a 20 plus yr industrial construction guy . Principal , Director , PM ,Site Manager ect ect . I have always wanted to study and take the PMP . It seems every where I turn someone is tryin to sell me something different . I have a stack of books and DVDs and seems like i cannot find good advice /guidance to keep this process as clean as possible . I can do everything from my home office and do NOT want to take 5-6 months to PMP test time . I can dedicate myself full time to this .

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Buck I work in the same industry as you. I believe going through the PMBOK and another resource like Rita Mulcahy Exam Prep Book will sufffice and then use RMC Fast Track for simulation exams. I did exactly this a few year ago ... this is as simple as I can put it.
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1 reply by Buck Barnes
Dec 13, 2018 11:04 AM
Buck Barnes
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Rami- I have Ritas book and will check into the RMC Fast Track...
Thanks for your input
Dec 13, 2018 10:56 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Buck I work in the same industry as you. I believe going through the PMBOK and another resource like Rita Mulcahy Exam Prep Book will sufffice and then use RMC Fast Track for simulation exams. I did exactly this a few year ago ... this is as simple as I can put it.
Rami- I have Ritas book and will check into the RMC Fast Track...
Thanks for your input
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Dec 13, 2018 11:10 AM
Rami Kaibni
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You’re Welcome - Good Luck
Dec 13, 2018 11:04 AM
Replying to Buck Barnes
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Rami- I have Ritas book and will check into the RMC Fast Track...
Thanks for your input
You’re Welcome - Good Luck
I will second Rita's book and program. Best of luck to you.
Considering you individuals have experience in construction project management, I would like to ask a question. As an PM especially starting a new career, what are some of the essentials things, knowledge, skills that I need to have if I am looking forward to working in the field of construction project management. I have the standard project management training, knowledge and skills that can be apply in any project or industry project activities, I am only limited with experience in that industry such as construction knowledge. I would highly appreciate if you can give me you honest opinion in regards how I can navigate the pathway to become a construction project manager. Thank you!.
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2 replies by Buck Barnes and Esmeal Sheriff
Jan 23, 2019 10:07 AM
Buck Barnes
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Esmeal.. Sorry for the slow reply . My main suggestion is to pick a segment of the industry that intrest you the most. Heavy Industrial (refineries , power houses ) is my prefered segment vs commercial or residential . The barriers to entering the heavy industrial are a bit tougher than the others . The pace of Heavy industrual and the complexity of the work fits my personality . I am in no way diminishing the other segments . If you would like to chat via phone sometime let me know and i can get you my phone number.
Again , Appologize for the slow reply .

BB
Jan 25, 2019 3:21 PM
Esmeal Sheriff
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Hello Buck,

Thanks for sharing with me what you do and providing a brief comparison between industrial and commercial construction project management. Sure, it would be great to chat with you sometimes. I will send you my number as well. Thank you.

Esmeal
Buck-
Glen and Rami are absolutely correct. I would like to relay a short story--
I was working as a Sr. PM in the KSA and was stuck there during the September Holy Days. In order to avoid extreme boredom, I decided to join the local PMI group, Schedule my exam for 2 weeks ahead, and purchase the Rita book to study for my 5 days off work.
I passed the test the week following the Holiday at the local test center.
Other than following the advice from Rita, I also concentrated on:
1) The Exam questions are poorly worded. You need to pay close attention to the intended answer. Luckily, The practice questions are also poorly worded-so you can get a feel for the faulty grammar.
2) Remember- the test is created by I.T. guys with PhD's. All the references to Construction terminology will be incorrect--for example "Cement" instead of Concrete.
3) You need to put your mindset into the psychology of the test maker- The IT guys believe if a staff member is low performing you must counsel them and get them training...as you know the sense of urgency to perform in our Industry (Construction) precludes "hand-holding" of low performers- we trade them or replace them--but you need to give the"counsel and train" answer....
4) "A Charter"- no such thing in the Construction Industry at our level-The Execution level. A Charter was created way before the Project was put out on the street for Bidding.

In my opinion, the list above represents the most common reasons Construction professionals fail the exam. Tell them what they want to hear- not what you know and understand from experience!!!

Good Luck- You can do it easily with your background!
From the trenches!
M
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1 reply by Buck Barnes
Jan 23, 2019 10:21 AM
Buck Barnes
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Mark ..
My biggest struggle is forgetting (temporalily) how I know the real construction world works vs applying the medhodolgy in the books . I understand their view and what they are trying to get across. Unfortunatly i have never personally witnessed a project run
with all the bells and whistles mentioned in PMI in the heavy industrial world . Mainly always short staffed and inexperienced people are the norm. I could see it happening on an I.T. / sofware project , but in doing projects with the monsters of the EPC world I just havent seen it yet .

Appreciate your input .

BB
Dec 13, 2018 2:28 PM
Replying to Esmeal Sheriff
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Considering you individuals have experience in construction project management, I would like to ask a question. As an PM especially starting a new career, what are some of the essentials things, knowledge, skills that I need to have if I am looking forward to working in the field of construction project management. I have the standard project management training, knowledge and skills that can be apply in any project or industry project activities, I am only limited with experience in that industry such as construction knowledge. I would highly appreciate if you can give me you honest opinion in regards how I can navigate the pathway to become a construction project manager. Thank you!.
Esmeal.. Sorry for the slow reply . My main suggestion is to pick a segment of the industry that intrest you the most. Heavy Industrial (refineries , power houses ) is my prefered segment vs commercial or residential . The barriers to entering the heavy industrial are a bit tougher than the others . The pace of Heavy industrual and the complexity of the work fits my personality . I am in no way diminishing the other segments . If you would like to chat via phone sometime let me know and i can get you my phone number.
Again , Appologize for the slow reply .

BB
Jan 22, 2019 12:13 PM
Replying to MARK A ANNUNZIATA, Sr
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Buck-
Glen and Rami are absolutely correct. I would like to relay a short story--
I was working as a Sr. PM in the KSA and was stuck there during the September Holy Days. In order to avoid extreme boredom, I decided to join the local PMI group, Schedule my exam for 2 weeks ahead, and purchase the Rita book to study for my 5 days off work.
I passed the test the week following the Holiday at the local test center.
Other than following the advice from Rita, I also concentrated on:
1) The Exam questions are poorly worded. You need to pay close attention to the intended answer. Luckily, The practice questions are also poorly worded-so you can get a feel for the faulty grammar.
2) Remember- the test is created by I.T. guys with PhD's. All the references to Construction terminology will be incorrect--for example "Cement" instead of Concrete.
3) You need to put your mindset into the psychology of the test maker- The IT guys believe if a staff member is low performing you must counsel them and get them training...as you know the sense of urgency to perform in our Industry (Construction) precludes "hand-holding" of low performers- we trade them or replace them--but you need to give the"counsel and train" answer....
4) "A Charter"- no such thing in the Construction Industry at our level-The Execution level. A Charter was created way before the Project was put out on the street for Bidding.

In my opinion, the list above represents the most common reasons Construction professionals fail the exam. Tell them what they want to hear- not what you know and understand from experience!!!

Good Luck- You can do it easily with your background!
From the trenches!
M
Mark ..
My biggest struggle is forgetting (temporalily) how I know the real construction world works vs applying the medhodolgy in the books . I understand their view and what they are trying to get across. Unfortunatly i have never personally witnessed a project run
with all the bells and whistles mentioned in PMI in the heavy industrial world . Mainly always short staffed and inexperienced people are the norm. I could see it happening on an I.T. / sofware project , but in doing projects with the monsters of the EPC world I just havent seen it yet .

Appreciate your input .

BB
Buck -

there are many aspirants facing the same issues as you. That was the reason for me to develop a prep guidance program/course which can work like your very own study plan (of course with the freedom to adjust and customize it to your very own circumstances).
That program/course is available online and it is for free!
Since we are not allowed to post external links here at the discussion board, just send me a short note if you would be interested in that guidance course (just to avoid misunderstandings, it is NOT a PMP preparation course teaching you all the knowledge stuff) and I will send you the link.
This guidance course provides you a straight forward and very clear study approach which might be exactly what you are looking for.

Regards,

Markus
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1 reply by Buck Barnes
Jan 23, 2019 1:37 PM
Buck Barnes
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Markus .. Appreciate the off and would love to see what you have put together
bbarnes@8760sg.com
Thanks Again
Jan 23, 2019 1:27 PM
Replying to Markus Kopko, PMP
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Buck -

there are many aspirants facing the same issues as you. That was the reason for me to develop a prep guidance program/course which can work like your very own study plan (of course with the freedom to adjust and customize it to your very own circumstances).
That program/course is available online and it is for free!
Since we are not allowed to post external links here at the discussion board, just send me a short note if you would be interested in that guidance course (just to avoid misunderstandings, it is NOT a PMP preparation course teaching you all the knowledge stuff) and I will send you the link.
This guidance course provides you a straight forward and very clear study approach which might be exactly what you are looking for.

Regards,

Markus
Markus .. Appreciate the off and would love to see what you have put together
bbarnes@8760sg.com
Thanks Again
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