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Did you ever referred to ISO standards in a project documentation?
There are many standards related to Project Management, Software Testing (not ISO 9001) and Applications Development.
Did you ever used ISO standards to develop project documentation? (PMP, Solution Design etc). What about the Scrum Team?
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Stellian,

I have seen a few time some ISO number in the RFP. This was in some construction project.
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1 reply by Stelian ROMAN
Jan 12, 2019 5:09 PM
Stelian ROMAN
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Thank you Vincent. It makes sense in regulated domains.
I am more interested in software projects and if anyone used the PM ISO standards that are overlapping some of the PMI standards.
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Absolutely. Many times when developing something new, one of the early questions is whether or not there are existing standards for what we are doing, whether internal standards, or external. Why reinvent the wheel?
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Jan 12, 2019 5:14 PM
Stelian ROMAN
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Thank you Keith for the response, I am looking for personal experiences (with reference to the standard name or number) rather than the academic view that standards are useful.
I am interested in particular in ISO standards.
Checking if there are standards related to "what we are doing" is a bit useless because it is almost certain that there is one. Standards are not instructions they are just frameworks or guidelines that may or may not be followed. In software development projects I never heard any team that is using ISO standards (assuming that they are aware of them). PMOs also seems to have very limited knowledge about ISO standards. Apart from PMBoK an PRINCE2 I don't any other standard used to develop project delivery methodologies.
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Jan 12, 2019 8:35 AM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Stellian,

I have seen a few time some ISO number in the RFP. This was in some construction project.
Thank you Vincent. It makes sense in regulated domains.
I am more interested in software projects and if anyone used the PM ISO standards that are overlapping some of the PMI standards.
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Jan 12, 2019 4:02 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Absolutely. Many times when developing something new, one of the early questions is whether or not there are existing standards for what we are doing, whether internal standards, or external. Why reinvent the wheel?
Thank you Keith for the response, I am looking for personal experiences (with reference to the standard name or number) rather than the academic view that standards are useful.
I am interested in particular in ISO standards.
Checking if there are standards related to "what we are doing" is a bit useless because it is almost certain that there is one. Standards are not instructions they are just frameworks or guidelines that may or may not be followed. In software development projects I never heard any team that is using ISO standards (assuming that they are aware of them). PMOs also seems to have very limited knowledge about ISO standards. Apart from PMBoK an PRINCE2 I don't any other standard used to develop project delivery methodologies.
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Stelian, My apologies. I only wanted to help with some input in how requirements are defined, validated and planned.
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2 replies by Stelian ROMAN
Jan 13, 2019 3:17 AM
Stelian ROMAN
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Keith, I appreciate the willingness to help and I believe that any feedback is useful. My interest is more in the real life that what is in the project 101 books. There are a lot of ISO standards that can be used by project teams (especially for software development projects) but it seems that 'light documentation' means for many people lack of writing it but also reading.
Teh second point of interest is the overlapping between ISO and PMI (each has a separate Project Management, Project Risk Management Standard etc). Is tehre any value in this competition? Should PMI 'own' the Project Management Standard and ISO align theirs with it?
Jan 13, 2019 3:29 AM
Stelian ROMAN
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Keith, I don't believe that standards can be used to define requirements, unless they are certifiable, and most of them are not. Anyway, my interest is not in the scope of the project but in the delivery process. Are or can ISO standards be used to define better Project Delivery methodologies?
Requirements can't be validated using standards because standards are for guidance only. Planning requirements is something that to be honest I don understand. I always planed the delivery of the project artefacts. Do you have an example of an ISO standard defining how requirements are planned?
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Stelian, because of the nature of my expertise I always deal with many standards like IEEE, CSA, DIN, NETA, NFPA, PAS 55 ISO 55000, ISO 55001, ISO 55002 for Asset Management , ISO 14000, 14001 for Environment management and many others however all of them are related to the project deliverable not the project management it self except for ISO 9000 ,
but for your case you may look into ISO/IEC 17025 testing and calibration laboratories and ISO/IEC 27001 Information security management

There are many harmonization between ANSI and ISO I haven't seen any contradiction in PMBOK guide
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Jan 13, 2019 3:24 AM
Stelian ROMAN
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Thank you Riyadh. production related and regulatory standards can be refereed as guidance for project scope alignment. ISO 9001 and 27001 are good example of standards that refer to the scope of a Quality or ISMS certification. The project will implement a framework that after audit will support certification (or not),
Apart from the PM and Project Risk Management standards I am very interested if anyone read ISO 31000 and use it to plan risk management, Other standards that I am interested if someone else used them are the software measurement using Function Points standards.
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Not as yet.
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1 reply by Stelian ROMAN
Jan 13, 2019 3:19 AM
Stelian ROMAN
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Thank you Sante. Your short answer is really what I am looking for. If a PM with your experience and interest in project management discipline didn't use them it becomes logic to wonder why they were developed (other than selling copies).
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Jan 12, 2019 9:11 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Stelian, My apologies. I only wanted to help with some input in how requirements are defined, validated and planned.
Keith, I appreciate the willingness to help and I believe that any feedback is useful. My interest is more in the real life that what is in the project 101 books. There are a lot of ISO standards that can be used by project teams (especially for software development projects) but it seems that 'light documentation' means for many people lack of writing it but also reading.
Teh second point of interest is the overlapping between ISO and PMI (each has a separate Project Management, Project Risk Management Standard etc). Is tehre any value in this competition? Should PMI 'own' the Project Management Standard and ISO align theirs with it?
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Jan 13, 2019 3:05 AM
Replying to Sante Vergini
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Not as yet.
Thank you Sante. Your short answer is really what I am looking for. If a PM with your experience and interest in project management discipline didn't use them it becomes logic to wonder why they were developed (other than selling copies).
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Jan 13, 2019 12:19 AM
Replying to Riyadh Salih
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Stelian, because of the nature of my expertise I always deal with many standards like IEEE, CSA, DIN, NETA, NFPA, PAS 55 ISO 55000, ISO 55001, ISO 55002 for Asset Management , ISO 14000, 14001 for Environment management and many others however all of them are related to the project deliverable not the project management it self except for ISO 9000 ,
but for your case you may look into ISO/IEC 17025 testing and calibration laboratories and ISO/IEC 27001 Information security management

There are many harmonization between ANSI and ISO I haven't seen any contradiction in PMBOK guide
Thank you Riyadh. production related and regulatory standards can be refereed as guidance for project scope alignment. ISO 9001 and 27001 are good example of standards that refer to the scope of a Quality or ISMS certification. The project will implement a framework that after audit will support certification (or not),
Apart from the PM and Project Risk Management standards I am very interested if anyone read ISO 31000 and use it to plan risk management, Other standards that I am interested if someone else used them are the software measurement using Function Points standards.
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