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if an organization is using Agile aproach for project management how is dealing with the Vendors that are not in Agile model and with external entities that are also not in agile approach?
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I want to share some ideas about how to integrated the project management when the project is involving multiple vendors and external entities that not all are incorporating agile. I have had that challenge to integrated the project with multiple organizations and vendors that some of them are working in agile others are waterfall. In fact the vendors and organziations that are using agile approach also have multiple differences in their aproaches thanks if you can share ideas about:
1. How to manage and integrated approach? best practices? learning experiences?
2. What kind of standards is having more benefits to use in this case?
3. is program management useful to use in those cases? why?
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Interestingly, the Agile Practice Guide talks about hybrid approaches for just such cases. I highly recommend it's reading.
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1 reply by Dora Mejia
May 13, 2019 2:59 PM
Dora Mejia
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thanks. yes . I want to know specific experiences,lesson learning and topics to review in these cases.
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The answer is simple: Agile is not about to use a method or life cycle then you can use Agile approach with all methods and life cycle, for example waterfall (it is a life cycle). So, if you have to integrate components is the same that for anything you created: each component has an interface and you have to interact with the component thru the interface. You have to add each component to your main process. In this case, the components are the vendors.
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1 reply by Dora Mejia
May 13, 2019 3:00 PM
Dora Mejia
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thanks for the analogy. in this case what kind of challenges have you found by this interfase case?
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Dora -

A lot depends on the nature of the work that the vendors will be doing. If they are all working independently and there's only occasional integration and verification/validation, then their individual way of working is not an issue. This is essentially a variant of "Water-Scrum-Fall". Certain rules of engagement about the touchpoints have to be worked out, but beyond that, you can support different approaches.

On the other hand, if those vendors are closely interacting on a daily basis amongst themselves and the internal team, then it is important to come up with a common delivery approach and shared working agreements.

Kiron
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May 13, 2019 3:01 PM
Dora Mejia
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thanks for your contribution.
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In my experience, the client organization dictates the approach used by the vendor. Not only was that part of the selection criteria, but once the vendor(s) was selected, there was formal training to onboard the vendor with the client organizations approach, tools, etc.
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It has to do with a lot of factors.
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1 reply by Dora Mejia
May 13, 2019 3:01 PM
Dora Mejia
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thanks. any experience, contribution , samples or lesson learnt to share?
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I can't recall a situation when it mattered how my vendors operated- whether they were agile, command and control, or mafia. I needed a specific deliverable (service or product) by a specific date, and we agreed to pay them a specific amount of money to accomplish this. How they managed their end was of little importance to me, as long as they met their contractual obligations.

This is also true for other departments within my organization. My projects may rely on them, but it doesn't matter how they're managed, so long as we all meet our commitments. to each other.
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May 13, 2019 3:03 PM
Dora Mejia
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thanks for your contribution . in that sense is more important to take the approach of hybrid and having clear the deliverables for each party and not having unique single agile aproach losing the deliverables commitment for each party and the global interactions, objetives and plan.
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May 12, 2019 8:24 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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Interestingly, the Agile Practice Guide talks about hybrid approaches for just such cases. I highly recommend it's reading.
thanks. yes . I want to know specific experiences,lesson learning and topics to review in these cases.
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May 12, 2019 9:28 PM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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The answer is simple: Agile is not about to use a method or life cycle then you can use Agile approach with all methods and life cycle, for example waterfall (it is a life cycle). So, if you have to integrate components is the same that for anything you created: each component has an interface and you have to interact with the component thru the interface. You have to add each component to your main process. In this case, the components are the vendors.
thanks for the analogy. in this case what kind of challenges have you found by this interfase case?
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May 13, 2019 6:36 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Dora -

A lot depends on the nature of the work that the vendors will be doing. If they are all working independently and there's only occasional integration and verification/validation, then their individual way of working is not an issue. This is essentially a variant of "Water-Scrum-Fall". Certain rules of engagement about the touchpoints have to be worked out, but beyond that, you can support different approaches.

On the other hand, if those vendors are closely interacting on a daily basis amongst themselves and the internal team, then it is important to come up with a common delivery approach and shared working agreements.

Kiron
thanks for your contribution.
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1 reply by Dora Mejia
May 15, 2019 8:58 PM
Dora Mejia
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Thanks. It is a good rule of thombs to review.
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May 13, 2019 8:13 AM
Replying to Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani
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It has to do with a lot of factors.
thanks. any experience, contribution , samples or lesson learnt to share?
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