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Job Title Vs. Skills
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Am a Drilling Engineer in the Oil & Gas Industry and have been trying to apply for jobs related to Project Management in other industries simply because as a Drilling Engineer, I utilize a comprehensive project management approach to deliver my work, however, my application was declined most of the time due to being a Drilling Engineer. I could notice that recruiters look at the job title one holds at the time of applying instead of the set of skills required to perform that job. How often do recruiters consider skills/talents instead of current job titles while hiring?
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In my experience, most employers look at the experience more than the job titles. Titles are arbitrary, and often sound more important than they actually are. As an engineer and PM myself I tend to describe my position in commonly recognized terms rather than state the specific title since those differ between companies and organizations. I have had titles that nobody outside the company would recognize, but elsewhere it's called a PM, or a Project Engineer. My specific goal in getting my PMP certification itself was to demonstrate that I have skills that are transferable, rather than limited to a specific domain or company.
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Jun 05, 2019 2:08 AM
MOHD ABU HASIRA
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You're absolutely right Keith. Thank you very much for your contribution!

It's unfortunate that I was told on several occasions that as soon as the recruiter reads "Drilling Engineer" or "Well Engineer", the resume gets parked immediately without going further in it.

Am currently preparing for my PMP examination for the same reason.
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Jun 04, 2019 12:01 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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In my experience, most employers look at the experience more than the job titles. Titles are arbitrary, and often sound more important than they actually are. As an engineer and PM myself I tend to describe my position in commonly recognized terms rather than state the specific title since those differ between companies and organizations. I have had titles that nobody outside the company would recognize, but elsewhere it's called a PM, or a Project Engineer. My specific goal in getting my PMP certification itself was to demonstrate that I have skills that are transferable, rather than limited to a specific domain or company.
You're absolutely right Keith. Thank you very much for your contribution!

It's unfortunate that I was told on several occasions that as soon as the recruiter reads "Drilling Engineer" or "Well Engineer", the resume gets parked immediately without going further in it.

Am currently preparing for my PMP examination for the same reason.
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Hi Mohd,

Unfortunately, this is the scene in most place. Recruiters being the gate keeper, are very juniors, they have a senior monitoring them. At times, junior recruiters end up shortlisting the resumes on their own by merely mapping word to word with the JD given to them. Ideally they should send it to line managers to evaluate when they have a doubt with any profile. However, they don’t take this step, maybe the line managers may reprimand them for wasting their time or question them on their ability to do their job well. They lack basic understanding of the line of business and maturity to assess the resumes. It’s the company’s loss.

It is recommended that if you know the line manager of the company, try sending the resume to them directly thru linkedin if possible. But in many cases you will not be able to know the line manager, in that case, try reaching out to the organization someway or the other. This will eliminate resumes getting filtered by the recruiters. If those options are not available then while sending your resume – you could consider the following (1) either you mention your role & ignore the title (2) in the title mention only “engineer” to avoid confusion and getting trashed by person who lack understanding. Very similar to what Keith as mentioned.
All the best for your PMP certification.
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1 reply by MOHD ABU HASIRA
Jun 07, 2019 1:22 AM
MOHD ABU HASIRA
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Thank you very much for your contribution and advice.
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I agree with Keith. You really need to take some smart actions and represent yourself in the way that they want to see.
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Jun 07, 2019 1:23 AM
MOHD ABU HASIRA
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Will definitely do the necessary, thanks a lot for your contribution.
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Hi Mohd,

As Keith stated, you should state your title in “functional terms” and do not feel obligated to state your HR title. I have never had a Project Manager title, but yet I have been a project manager for decades.

Also, you may want to consider putting together a Portfolio of your projects into a nice digital binder that you can have “passed along” for any opportunity.
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Jun 07, 2019 1:24 AM
MOHD ABU HASIRA
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Thank you very much for your contribution and advice George - I like the idea of the digital binder!
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Jun 05, 2019 4:55 AM
Replying to Ganesh
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Hi Mohd,

Unfortunately, this is the scene in most place. Recruiters being the gate keeper, are very juniors, they have a senior monitoring them. At times, junior recruiters end up shortlisting the resumes on their own by merely mapping word to word with the JD given to them. Ideally they should send it to line managers to evaluate when they have a doubt with any profile. However, they don’t take this step, maybe the line managers may reprimand them for wasting their time or question them on their ability to do their job well. They lack basic understanding of the line of business and maturity to assess the resumes. It’s the company’s loss.

It is recommended that if you know the line manager of the company, try sending the resume to them directly thru linkedin if possible. But in many cases you will not be able to know the line manager, in that case, try reaching out to the organization someway or the other. This will eliminate resumes getting filtered by the recruiters. If those options are not available then while sending your resume – you could consider the following (1) either you mention your role & ignore the title (2) in the title mention only “engineer” to avoid confusion and getting trashed by person who lack understanding. Very similar to what Keith as mentioned.
All the best for your PMP certification.
Thank you very much for your contribution and advice.
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Jun 05, 2019 7:53 AM
Replying to Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani
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I agree with Keith. You really need to take some smart actions and represent yourself in the way that they want to see.
Will definitely do the necessary, thanks a lot for your contribution.
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Jun 05, 2019 4:07 PM
Replying to George Freeman
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Hi Mohd,

As Keith stated, you should state your title in “functional terms” and do not feel obligated to state your HR title. I have never had a Project Manager title, but yet I have been a project manager for decades.

Also, you may want to consider putting together a Portfolio of your projects into a nice digital binder that you can have “passed along” for any opportunity.
Thank you very much for your contribution and advice George - I like the idea of the digital binder!

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