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Need a good baseline to assist a customer in standing up a PMO organization. This organization will be a mix of customer and contract personnel.

Can anyone recommend good references documents or books that provide a general "How To" guide, which include some means to measure effectiveness.

Looking for tools outside the normal PMBOK libraries.
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Jochen,

Have you ever checked PMO Value Ring Methodology. It will help you big time in setting up a solid PMO for your client. You can check it online and then get in touch with the Chair Board “Americo Pinto” on LinkedIn and he will guide you further.

It is worth taking a look at it given what you are looking for.

Cheers,
RK
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PMO Value Ring is a wasted of time in my personal opinion. I can justify that. Creating a PMO is like to create any other business unit inside your company then the books to read are related to business administration instead of project management.
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I am not sure I agree with you Sergio, it is definitely not a waste of time but this is my personal opinion too. I did dig down into this methodology and it is impressive and based on years of research, actually solid research.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Aug 27, 2019 11:23 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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I do the same and is nothing new. But is my personal opinion too. Creating a PMO is not a matter of project management. That´s the problem people face and that´s because some people are seeing open a PMO is a headche. Creating a PMO is a matter of strategy as any other business unit. If organizations create it in that way then the PMO is will be an strategic PMO and will perform as expected.
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Aug 27, 2019 11:18 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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I am not sure I agree with you Sergio, it is definitely not a waste of time but this is my personal opinion too. I did dig down into this methodology and it is impressive and based on years of research, actually solid research.
I do the same and is nothing new. But is my personal opinion too. Creating a PMO is not a matter of project management. That´s the problem people face and that´s because some people are seeing open a PMO is a headche. Creating a PMO is a matter of strategy as any other business unit. If organizations create it in that way then the PMO is will be an strategic PMO and will perform as expected.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Aug 27, 2019 12:18 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I fully agree that creating a PMO is a matter of strategy and this is what PMO Value Ring is about. I am not trying to be bias but when I did dig deep down, I came to this conclusion. However, not all PMO's are strategic, as it depends on the purpose they are created to serve.
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Aug 27, 2019 11:23 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I do the same and is nothing new. But is my personal opinion too. Creating a PMO is not a matter of project management. That´s the problem people face and that´s because some people are seeing open a PMO is a headche. Creating a PMO is a matter of strategy as any other business unit. If organizations create it in that way then the PMO is will be an strategic PMO and will perform as expected.
I fully agree that creating a PMO is a matter of strategy and this is what PMO Value Ring is about. I am not trying to be bias but when I did dig deep down, I came to this conclusion. However, not all PMO's are strategic, as it depends on the purpose they are created to serve.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Aug 27, 2019 12:57 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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PMO will allways being strategic if you create it from strategy. PMO Value Ring is not addressing that. I have not nathing with PMO Value Ring. Just my comments.
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Aug 27, 2019 12:18 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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I fully agree that creating a PMO is a matter of strategy and this is what PMO Value Ring is about. I am not trying to be bias but when I did dig deep down, I came to this conclusion. However, not all PMO's are strategic, as it depends on the purpose they are created to serve.
PMO will allways being strategic if you create it from strategy. PMO Value Ring is not addressing that. I have not nathing with PMO Value Ring. Just my comments.
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Thanks for your support, Rami.
You are a skilled and experienced professional and, of course, you have the best intentions and don't intend to make Jochen waste his time on something that is worth nothing.
Jochen, if you want to know more about the PMO VALUE RING methodology, which was developed by an international group of 120 experienced PMO Leaders, I will be happy to share In-depth information with you. Certainly, by knowing that proposal better you will be able to reach your own conclusions and I will be happy to receive your qualified feedback.
If there is one thing we have learned over the years, there are many more questions than answers and certainties about PMOs. Therefore the importance of always being open to new points of view in a respectful way.
You can find me on LinkedIn whenever you need it. Thanks.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Aug 27, 2019 2:43 PM
Rami Kaibni
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You're Welcome Americo - I appreciate your kind words.

Of course PMO Value Ring is not a waste of time and I am saying this because I truly believe in that after my personal experience with this methodology but different people have different opinions and I respect that.
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Aug 27, 2019 1:43 PM
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Thanks for your support, Rami.
You are a skilled and experienced professional and, of course, you have the best intentions and don't intend to make Jochen waste his time on something that is worth nothing.
Jochen, if you want to know more about the PMO VALUE RING methodology, which was developed by an international group of 120 experienced PMO Leaders, I will be happy to share In-depth information with you. Certainly, by knowing that proposal better you will be able to reach your own conclusions and I will be happy to receive your qualified feedback.
If there is one thing we have learned over the years, there are many more questions than answers and certainties about PMOs. Therefore the importance of always being open to new points of view in a respectful way.
You can find me on LinkedIn whenever you need it. Thanks.
You're Welcome Americo - I appreciate your kind words.

Of course PMO Value Ring is not a waste of time and I am saying this because I truly believe in that after my personal experience with this methodology but different people have different opinions and I respect that.
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Yes, Rami. I completely agree with you. That's the idea! Different opinions and points of view are exactly what we need to create our own solutions and ways to overcome challenges. Definitely, one size doesn't fit all and any well-grounded feedback is always valuable.
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I will put my previous comment in other words because I used an Argentine expresion and it was "not happy". Nothing is a wasted of time. We always take something for everything we read or try to understand. Perhaps it could be better saying it can be consider valuable or not, taking into account that value is a subjective matter. Then, it relays on subjective opinons no matter in my personal case I can put on the table the reasons for my comments because that can help me to improve when received feedback.

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