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Hi all,
I would like to ask you, your opinions and if you want share your experiences related.

I' am just certified CAPM and Prince 2 collection in progress; I always worked in hospitality industry but I' am trying to start a profession in UK as junior or assistant project manager considering few fields like construction, consultancy, analyst and why not, hospitality, but I' am open to make experience in any other field as I would be new in all of them.

It says that the certification proves the knowledge of project management and makes you ready to start a career, but actually i' am discovering that all job advertisement ask for proven experience in the field on the way to close the doors to people like me, that have all the energy and enthusiasm to do experience and grow.

The question that I’ am recently asking to myself is:

Did I waste my time and money studying something new having no experience, or I’ am doing something wrong on presenting myself or looking for the wrong position?

During this period, I re-made my CV using the tool of the training provider, I’ am keeping myself updated with the market demand and adapting myself to all the possibly options (even if means start from a very lower level) but what I receive back is that I’m not qualified enough for the position (even if I recognise myself in all the requirements) or I don’t have enough experience.

Is this certification really recognized from the market?

I don’t want to give the impression that I don’t trust on Project Management, but I’ am sure that this is not only my feeling, so who else had a similar experience, please share it with me, and the purpose of this article is to raise the possibility that this profession is still something not believed in full from the job market or is not yet well linked. Am I wrong?
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I believe your challenge is going to be demonstrating to hiring managers that your certification is applicable to across industries and that its value comes from the grounding in management best practices and processes. It is great to read that you have reworked your CV and that you are prepared to start at a lower level to enter a new field. That demonstrates the proper attitude, At the risk of sounding redundant, I recommend that you draft a new CV for each position you apply to, taking pains to illustrate how you qualify for that jobs specific requirements. Show how you can apply what you learned when preparing for the CAPM to the job. Good luck.
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Sep 24, 2019 9:31 AM
Flavio Giancristofaro
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Hi Arthur,
Thank you for your precious feedbacks.
For sure i will keep on this way, tenaciously showing the value of the transferable skills and i' am aware that probably i need to go more into details.
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Sep 24, 2019 8:56 AM
Replying to Arthur Powers
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I believe your challenge is going to be demonstrating to hiring managers that your certification is applicable to across industries and that its value comes from the grounding in management best practices and processes. It is great to read that you have reworked your CV and that you are prepared to start at a lower level to enter a new field. That demonstrates the proper attitude, At the risk of sounding redundant, I recommend that you draft a new CV for each position you apply to, taking pains to illustrate how you qualify for that jobs specific requirements. Show how you can apply what you learned when preparing for the CAPM to the job. Good luck.
Hi Arthur,
Thank you for your precious feedbacks.
For sure i will keep on this way, tenaciously showing the value of the transferable skills and i' am aware that probably i need to go more into details.
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Flavio: a certification say nothing about you, no matter I have three certifications from the PMI, one from the IIBA and one from Agile Consortium. What matters is the practical experience. So, go for practical experience (per you stated I think you have it) and forget about new certifications EXCEPT you detect that one certification is required in the market.
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Certifications do not get you a job but might help put your resume ahead of the crowd and let you stand out, your experience is what matters most.

I have 32 Certifications and yet, I agree with Sergio, experience is what matters most.
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1 reply by Flavio Giancristofaro
Sep 26, 2019 6:19 PM
Flavio Giancristofaro
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I agree with both of you, don't get me wrong.
The point that i'am trying to raise up is that all companies look for people that have experience in that particular field, and i can understand for some part, but from the other hand what about people that have the skills but not that particular experience? Or doesn't have experience yet?
The reality is, atleast in UK, that companies doesn't believe on transferable skills and/or are not open to let you do experience at all.
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Not at all. You have not wasted time at all by studying for the certifications. Everything you learn counts. And experience of course will enhance the skills. If you are preparing for an interview and looking for a resource, I would like to mention I just updated with PMBOK 6 references and Agile questions in my interview questions book available on Amazon.
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I agree with Rami that certifications make you stand out in a pile of résumé. You will still need to have experience.

For a junior project manager, any project management experience will work. Practice on personal or family events (weddings, anniversaries, ...) or, better yet, with charitable organizations. Make sure you list it in your résumé.
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Sep 26, 2019 6:22 PM
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These are also good suggestions :-)
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Hello Flavio: I know someone who asked to be hired as an apprentice first for a 90-day trial. This allowed them to get their foot in the door. Not only did they gain some experience, but they were hired on permanently after the 90-days. This may not work for everyone - and you have to interview to make this work, but maybe this approach could be an option!
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Sep 26, 2019 6:21 PM
Flavio Giancristofaro
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Thank you for sharing!
I will try also this for sure :-)
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Sep 24, 2019 11:03 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Certifications do not get you a job but might help put your resume ahead of the crowd and let you stand out, your experience is what matters most.

I have 32 Certifications and yet, I agree with Sergio, experience is what matters most.
I agree with both of you, don't get me wrong.
The point that i'am trying to raise up is that all companies look for people that have experience in that particular field, and i can understand for some part, but from the other hand what about people that have the skills but not that particular experience? Or doesn't have experience yet?
The reality is, atleast in UK, that companies doesn't believe on transferable skills and/or are not open to let you do experience at all.
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Sep 24, 2019 6:21 PM
Replying to LORI WILSON
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Hello Flavio: I know someone who asked to be hired as an apprentice first for a 90-day trial. This allowed them to get their foot in the door. Not only did they gain some experience, but they were hired on permanently after the 90-days. This may not work for everyone - and you have to interview to make this work, but maybe this approach could be an option!
Thank you for sharing!
I will try also this for sure :-)
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Sep 24, 2019 1:20 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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I agree with Rami that certifications make you stand out in a pile of résumé. You will still need to have experience.

For a junior project manager, any project management experience will work. Practice on personal or family events (weddings, anniversaries, ...) or, better yet, with charitable organizations. Make sure you list it in your résumé.
These are also good suggestions :-)
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