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It seems free speech is at stake. The purpose of this forum (denoted by its very title) is to have "discussions". When I posted a thread about the new logo, it wasn't long before the moderators stopped the ability to reply. I have to wonder, if the replies had been positive about the new PMI logo, would the thread have been closed? Promoting dissenting opinion (free speech) is the foundation of democracy. Suppressing it is actually the definition of fascism.
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Oct 09, 2019 2:57 PM
Replying to James Shields
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Sante -- You may want to take this up directly with Heather.

Luis -- Both Sante's and David's discussion threads are available for review; they're just closed. Nothing has been deleted.
Thanks James, but the policy seems clear, so not much point. I don't require clarification only justification. Justice is a whole other branch of thought when it comes to free speech. I look at it from a high level; closing a thread stops someone who might have otherwise posted something prolific. They are unlikely to search discussion topics and find that thread to post a reply. So in that way, free speech has been curtailed. Don't mind me, it's just the philosophical wranglings I have from time to time. Still confused how they skipped a thousand other repeated threads that were not closed, but I digress.
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Oct 09, 2019 4:31 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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I'm certainly not against multiple threads on a similar topic if the focus is sufficiently different OR if sufficient time (e.g. months) has passed between the discussions.

In this case, all three threads were opened within a matter of a day or two of each other and were all soliciting feedback on the re-branding.

As such, I understand and support the moderators' actions.

Kiron
Perhaps I will bring it up in a few months' time then. I fear the logo will still be disturbing minds by then.
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Oct 10, 2019 7:10 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Hopefully it is like Scotch - most folks' first (ever) taste is not representative of their long term view :-)
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On the other hand...
For Sante to have created this publication is because the subject (in his perspective) was not well resolved.
And when a subject is not well resolved, it is not erasing that it is resolved
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Curiously..
The topic created by Sante had more unfavorable responses to PMI rebranding ...
Coincidence of coincidences .... was what merged!
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1 reply by Sante Vergini
Oct 10, 2019 1:58 PM
Sante Vergini
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True, and I saw a similar branding thread that was not closed (just after I created a thread). So I guess it took my thread (with the more negative responses that you observed) to arrive at a decision to close the thread.
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Speaking of fusion ... I would like to have the link that includes all the answers that were in the thread created by Sante
Can you put it here?
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Oct 09, 2019 2:57 PM
Replying to James Shields
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Sante -- You may want to take this up directly with Heather.

Luis -- Both Sante's and David's discussion threads are available for review; they're just closed. Nothing has been deleted.
Dear James
Where are these topics?
Can you put the link here?
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1 reply by James Shields
Oct 10, 2019 11:48 AM
James Shields
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Hi Luis,

It's currently within the first two pages of Project Central Management discussion board.

Sante's closed thread is at:
https://www.projectmanagement.com/discussi...140521/PMI-Logo

David's closed thread is at:
https://www.projectmanagement.com/discussi...f-the-new-logo-
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In one thing Sante is right ...
Deleting a post interrupts the momentum of discussion ...
Whether we like it or not!
We're talking about topics created on social networks
Here is the question: Has this interruption been done intentionally?
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Completely agree on the free speech aspect Sante. Context matters such as this thread and it’s valid in my opinion. In few years in future if I need to search topic I would not want to go through pages and pages in single topic it’s dreadful. We’ll end up like having those dreadful lengthy email chains.

Thank you Sante for voicing this rule for the community, much respected!
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Oct 10, 2019 2:07 PM
Sante Vergini
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Thanks Suzi. The issue as you have observed is that people rarely search threads (other than those who want to build influence points). The most common way is to go to the Discussions link and access one of only 5 threads that appears at the top of the list. Are we suppose to spend ages looking through threads to make sure a topic has not been opened recently? By that time, perhaps our inspiration to make a post would have waned. The brain wants to convert thoughts asap, the way that organic speech naturally occurs, not sift through endless discussion threads. When we speak, write, think, we always build upon previous knowledge that is similar. That is our reference point; our baselines for building knowledge. Using a similar analogy to closing a thread, we would end up with virtually no inventions, discoveries, cultural or linguistic progression.
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Oct 10, 2019 12:59 AM
Replying to Sante Vergini
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Perhaps I will bring it up in a few months' time then. I fear the logo will still be disturbing minds by then.
Hopefully it is like Scotch - most folks' first (ever) taste is not representative of their long term view :-)
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2 replies by Luis Branco and Sante Vergini
Oct 10, 2019 7:55 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
If we apply the same concept as wine, some over time tends to sour :-)
Oct 10, 2019 2:09 PM
Sante Vergini
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Unless your last taste was your first ;-)
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Oct 10, 2019 7:10 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Hopefully it is like Scotch - most folks' first (ever) taste is not representative of their long term view :-)
Dear Kiron
If we apply the same concept as wine, some over time tends to sour :-)
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