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Presentation Post mortem - Y2K Deep Dive - happy to answer any questions not covered in the presentation - fire away!
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There's never enough time in a 60 minute webinar to discuss everything that could be discussed - so? If you have any questions? Ask, and I'll do my best to answer.

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Peter
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Dear Peter
I don't know what you mean when you talk about "Y2K Deep Dive".
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1 reply by Peter de Jager
Oct 22, 2019 9:46 AM
Peter de Jager
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The webinar we held yesterday here on PM
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Oct 22, 2019 9:45 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
I don't know what you mean when you talk about "Y2K Deep Dive".
The webinar we held yesterday here on PM
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Oct 22, 2019 9:51 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Not yet available to watch on-demand
I promise I will listen and eventually ask many questions.
Thanks for sharing
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Oct 22, 2019 9:46 AM
Replying to Peter de Jager
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The webinar we held yesterday here on PM
Dear Peter
Not yet available to watch on-demand
I promise I will listen and eventually ask many questions.
Thanks for sharing
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1 reply by Peter de Jager
Oct 22, 2019 9:54 AM
Peter de Jager
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I look forward to the conversation.
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Oct 22, 2019 9:51 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Not yet available to watch on-demand
I promise I will listen and eventually ask many questions.
Thanks for sharing
I look forward to the conversation.
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I'm also waiting for the on-demand version.
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I finally got to see it yesterday. One question that comes to mind is what does a person do with their lessons learned on such a project?
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1 reply by Peter de Jager
Nov 11, 2019 9:39 AM
Peter de Jager
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Good question... when we 'learn a lesson'... how do we 'apply it'?

I think the notion that we 'learn a lesson' in this context is not about 'what do I do differently?' but instead, about 'How do I think about what I'm doing differently?'

An example... Long long time ago I learned about Murphy and the tongue in cheek observation that 'If something can go wrong, it will'

THAT has informed my thinking on every project I've ever worked on.

Driving in the winter? Because I COULD end up in a ditch when it's -30deg C? -- I will have survival gear - blankets, candles and food/water in my car enough to last me 3 days.

Given a deadline? Because illness can occur, problems can arise, I WILL keep my attention on goalposts and time remaining from the very 1st day, not just when I get to the last 10% of the project.

One lesson from Y2K was --- we don't think about the future, we're focused on the short term.... therefore? I change my thinking, asking myself what happens a year from now, a decade from now, 25 years from now IF I apply this solution today.

The lessons I mentioned are things we became aware of, the hope is that they change how we think about things.

I can't answer this any better than this - sorry if It's not more prescriptive

-Peter
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Oh, what memories. S36 and AS/400 and the insurance industry. Not so much a question but rather a comment. Human stupidity has no limits when it comes to painting ourselves into a corner. We see it wherever we go and it is all driven by the $$$. A buck save now is just that, a buck saved now. We only think about the month-end bottom line, or if we are really forward-thinking, the annual bottom line. There is no doubt in my mind that we are leaving an AI nightmare behind for our grandchildren.
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Nov 11, 2019 9:41 AM
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Hi Anton -- absolutely... the Internet of Things is a good example of this. We REALLY haven't spent much time attempting to figure out what problems this will cause AND what hacking opportunities it will present both to individual bad actors AND state bad actors.

We're too short sighted - too focused on immediate gain and or/saving - and we don't even pretend to take the long view.
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Nov 08, 2019 5:40 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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I finally got to see it yesterday. One question that comes to mind is what does a person do with their lessons learned on such a project?
Good question... when we 'learn a lesson'... how do we 'apply it'?

I think the notion that we 'learn a lesson' in this context is not about 'what do I do differently?' but instead, about 'How do I think about what I'm doing differently?'

An example... Long long time ago I learned about Murphy and the tongue in cheek observation that 'If something can go wrong, it will'

THAT has informed my thinking on every project I've ever worked on.

Driving in the winter? Because I COULD end up in a ditch when it's -30deg C? -- I will have survival gear - blankets, candles and food/water in my car enough to last me 3 days.

Given a deadline? Because illness can occur, problems can arise, I WILL keep my attention on goalposts and time remaining from the very 1st day, not just when I get to the last 10% of the project.

One lesson from Y2K was --- we don't think about the future, we're focused on the short term.... therefore? I change my thinking, asking myself what happens a year from now, a decade from now, 25 years from now IF I apply this solution today.

The lessons I mentioned are things we became aware of, the hope is that they change how we think about things.

I can't answer this any better than this - sorry if It's not more prescriptive

-Peter
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Nov 11, 2019 9:54 AM
Stéphane Parent
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You have a valid point: our thinking should be constantly changing as we learn new facts. This thinking evolution is personal and unique to everyone. .
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Nov 11, 2019 1:46 AM
Replying to Anton Oosthuizen
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Oh, what memories. S36 and AS/400 and the insurance industry. Not so much a question but rather a comment. Human stupidity has no limits when it comes to painting ourselves into a corner. We see it wherever we go and it is all driven by the $$$. A buck save now is just that, a buck saved now. We only think about the month-end bottom line, or if we are really forward-thinking, the annual bottom line. There is no doubt in my mind that we are leaving an AI nightmare behind for our grandchildren.
Hi Anton -- absolutely... the Internet of Things is a good example of this. We REALLY haven't spent much time attempting to figure out what problems this will cause AND what hacking opportunities it will present both to individual bad actors AND state bad actors.

We're too short sighted - too focused on immediate gain and or/saving - and we don't even pretend to take the long view.
Network:105746



Nov 11, 2019 9:39 AM
Replying to Peter de Jager
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Good question... when we 'learn a lesson'... how do we 'apply it'?

I think the notion that we 'learn a lesson' in this context is not about 'what do I do differently?' but instead, about 'How do I think about what I'm doing differently?'

An example... Long long time ago I learned about Murphy and the tongue in cheek observation that 'If something can go wrong, it will'

THAT has informed my thinking on every project I've ever worked on.

Driving in the winter? Because I COULD end up in a ditch when it's -30deg C? -- I will have survival gear - blankets, candles and food/water in my car enough to last me 3 days.

Given a deadline? Because illness can occur, problems can arise, I WILL keep my attention on goalposts and time remaining from the very 1st day, not just when I get to the last 10% of the project.

One lesson from Y2K was --- we don't think about the future, we're focused on the short term.... therefore? I change my thinking, asking myself what happens a year from now, a decade from now, 25 years from now IF I apply this solution today.

The lessons I mentioned are things we became aware of, the hope is that they change how we think about things.

I can't answer this any better than this - sorry if It's not more prescriptive

-Peter
You have a valid point: our thinking should be constantly changing as we learn new facts. This thinking evolution is personal and unique to everyone. .

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