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link between EPC process and project management process group
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Dear Ladies and gentlmen,
Greeting of the day! trust you are doing well
any one faced distribution of EPC, engineering, procurement and construction in project management process group ?
Thanks & best regards
Hamid
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Abdelhamid -

have you reviewed the Construction extension to the PMBOK Guide as that provides (somewhat dated) guidance? It is available from here: https://www.pmi.org/pmbok-guide-standards/...ction-extension

Kiron
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1 reply by Abdelhamid CHELGHOUM
Dec 03, 2019 12:21 AM
Abdelhamid CHELGHOUM
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Kiron,
Thanks for the link, looks interesting ! I will have a look then I let you know, I am not sure this will cover everything but sure gives more details
once again thanks
Hamid
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it can be a little bit tricky.
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1 reply by Abdelhamid CHELGHOUM
Nov 28, 2019 12:59 PM
Abdelhamid CHELGHOUM
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but challenging too
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Nov 28, 2019 8:13 AM
Replying to Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani
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it can be a little bit tricky.
but challenging too
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Nov 28, 2019 7:05 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Abdelhamid -

have you reviewed the Construction extension to the PMBOK Guide as that provides (somewhat dated) guidance? It is available from here: https://www.pmi.org/pmbok-guide-standards/...ction-extension

Kiron
Kiron,
Thanks for the link, looks interesting ! I will have a look then I let you know, I am not sure this will cover everything but sure gives more details
once again thanks
Hamid
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Abdelhamid,

What do you mean by distributed?
different organizations for each letter?
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1 reply by Abdelhamid CHELGHOUM
Dec 04, 2019 2:33 AM
Abdelhamid CHELGHOUM
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Vincent,
I mean we have engineering procurement and construction in EPC, how process groups are distributed? inititation, planning etc within those three parts of EPC?
thanks
Hamid
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Dec 03, 2019 6:34 PM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Abdelhamid,

What do you mean by distributed?
different organizations for each letter?
Vincent,
I mean we have engineering procurement and construction in EPC, how process groups are distributed? inititation, planning etc within those three parts of EPC?
thanks
Hamid
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Abdelhamid,

Interesting question indeed, as I am facing the same scenario, as the clear boundaries are blurred and processes are overlapped. On the EPC contracts , the perspective of client is different than that of contractor. Usually For a Client whole EPC contract fall in execution, monitoring & controlling and closing process group. For a contractor usually Engineering can be a Planning Phase where all Projects Plans & Designs are prepared & approved. Procurement & Construction fall in Execution, Monitoring & Controlling & Closing Process Groups.

Regards,
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1 reply by Abdelhamid CHELGHOUM
Dec 04, 2019 3:14 AM
Abdelhamid CHELGHOUM
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Dear Asif,
Totally agree with you, however from the client side too, prepraring the SOR & FEED should be also part of the inititation and planining but differently, i think this is good subject to be developed
once again thanks for your feedback
Hamid
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Dec 04, 2019 3:03 AM
Replying to Asif Gul
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Abdelhamid,

Interesting question indeed, as I am facing the same scenario, as the clear boundaries are blurred and processes are overlapped. On the EPC contracts , the perspective of client is different than that of contractor. Usually For a Client whole EPC contract fall in execution, monitoring & controlling and closing process group. For a contractor usually Engineering can be a Planning Phase where all Projects Plans & Designs are prepared & approved. Procurement & Construction fall in Execution, Monitoring & Controlling & Closing Process Groups.

Regards,
Dear Asif,
Totally agree with you, however from the client side too, prepraring the SOR & FEED should be also part of the inititation and planining but differently, i think this is good subject to be developed
once again thanks for your feedback
Hamid

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