Project Management

Project Management Central

Please login or join to subscribe to this thread

Topics: Career Development, Talent Management, Teams
What do you think of the new R.E.P. Program?
"Instructors Customers Can Trust: A mandatory “train the trainer” program to ensure instructors are using best practices to drive student success"
"Revised Fee Structure. An adjusted annual program membership fee and a new per-person training fee."
Sort By:
Page: 1 2 next>
Luis

I have to familiarize myself a bit more with the new structure but generally speaking, I think it is better in terms that it will ensure consistency among all REP’s.

RK
...
1 reply by Luis Branco
Dec 04, 2019 6:18 PM
Luis Branco
...
Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

I fully understand that PMI is interested in the people giving training ensuring the minimum quality of preparation

Is the exam not selective enough?

When a person enrolls in the exam, he or she shares with PMI where they took the preparation course.

Is the treatment of these data not sufficient to audit the REP's with the highest failure rate?

Simply use the technology
Luis -

As someone who works for an REP, I can attest that there is a healthy amount of concern being raised by the REP community about these changes. Are there some disreputable training companies out there? Sure. But is moving to a one source model the only or best solution to address that? Questionable.

The cynic in me says this is one more way for PMI to increase its financial reserves.

What is really disappointing is that this announcement was made a couple of months after they announced the exam date change. Many REPs had invested effort in updating their materials for the new exam - that is now wasted effort.

Kiron
...
3 replies by Luis Branco and Rami Kaibni
Dec 04, 2019 11:09 AM
Rami Kaibni
...
Kiron

Wow, I did not know that at all. That is very surprising. Thanks for updating us.

It will be interesting to see how things shape up.

RK
Dec 04, 2019 6:25 PM
Luis Branco
...
Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

I fully understand that PMI is interested in the people giving training ensuring the minimum quality of preparation

The REPs I know have very tight criteria for selecting their trainers

Some of them take training courses for trainers to ensure the quality of their courses.

Yes, I subscribe to what it says: "Many REPs had invested effort in updating their materials for the new exam - that is now wasted effort"
Dec 05, 2019 3:57 AM
Luis Branco
...
Thinking well ...
I can only agree with you: "The cynic in me says this is yet another way for PMI to increase its financial reserves"
Dec 04, 2019 11:03 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
...
Luis -

As someone who works for an REP, I can attest that there is a healthy amount of concern being raised by the REP community about these changes. Are there some disreputable training companies out there? Sure. But is moving to a one source model the only or best solution to address that? Questionable.

The cynic in me says this is one more way for PMI to increase its financial reserves.

What is really disappointing is that this announcement was made a couple of months after they announced the exam date change. Many REPs had invested effort in updating their materials for the new exam - that is now wasted effort.

Kiron
Kiron

Wow, I did not know that at all. That is very surprising. Thanks for updating us.

It will be interesting to see how things shape up.

RK
Dec 04, 2019 10:57 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
...
Luis

I have to familiarize myself a bit more with the new structure but generally speaking, I think it is better in terms that it will ensure consistency among all REP’s.

RK
Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

I fully understand that PMI is interested in the people giving training ensuring the minimum quality of preparation

Is the exam not selective enough?

When a person enrolls in the exam, he or she shares with PMI where they took the preparation course.

Is the treatment of these data not sufficient to audit the REP's with the highest failure rate?

Simply use the technology
...
3 replies by Rami Kaibni, Robert Gan, and Wayne Kremling
Dec 05, 2019 12:36 PM
Rami Kaibni
...
I can't weigh in much on this Luis. I would be interested to see others feedback though.

RK
Dec 30, 2019 6:16 PM
Wayne Kremling
...
Minor correction, PMI asks for your PM training, not PMP Exam Prep training, they only count your first 35 hours of reported training (and it doesn't need to be from a REP).
They could easily change their application into more of a survey to get the information you're driving at, but if I were cynical I'd say that could break their business model that relates to the "train the trainer" direction they are going to.
Dec 31, 2019 4:55 AM
Robert Gan
...
I agree. Include who is the actual trainer from the REP in your records. From PMP exam results statistics, PMI can figure out not just the REP but also the good from the bad trainers. Until then, dont chnage the system.
Dec 04, 2019 11:03 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
...
Luis -

As someone who works for an REP, I can attest that there is a healthy amount of concern being raised by the REP community about these changes. Are there some disreputable training companies out there? Sure. But is moving to a one source model the only or best solution to address that? Questionable.

The cynic in me says this is one more way for PMI to increase its financial reserves.

What is really disappointing is that this announcement was made a couple of months after they announced the exam date change. Many REPs had invested effort in updating their materials for the new exam - that is now wasted effort.

Kiron
Dear Kiron
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

I fully understand that PMI is interested in the people giving training ensuring the minimum quality of preparation

The REPs I know have very tight criteria for selecting their trainers

Some of them take training courses for trainers to ensure the quality of their courses.

Yes, I subscribe to what it says: "Many REPs had invested effort in updating their materials for the new exam - that is now wasted effort"
Is this yet another way to help PMI's coffers or a real initiative to ensure the training must at least meet the minimum quality standard?

If it's the later, how can you gauge a trainer's quality of delivery except to see them in action, and pose questions during delivery to see how the open ended questions are responded to as a show of competence?

How much time to test the trainers, number of questions to asked, who are qualified to be examiners/testers.

The current REP systems control bring little value to assure the public of PMI contribution. A check of REP handouts is nothing.It may be good but it is the individuals conducting the training that matters and many are truly lacking in terms of knowledge, exposure and biz skills to even understand what they teach. Unless competency tested, the decay in quality education will continue.
...
2 replies by Luis Branco and Robert Gan
Dec 05, 2019 4:03 AM
Luis Branco
...
Dear Robert
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

On second thought ... it can only be: "This is another way to help PMI coffers"

Your question makes sense: "How can you gauge a trainer's quality of delivery except to see them in action, and pose questions during delivery to see how the open ended questions are answered to a show of competence?"
Dec 31, 2019 5:04 AM
Robert Gan
...
Spot on. REP submit their best trainers training materials but use the cheepest resource to do the training and who can blame them.

Is PMI truly non-profit oriented? Show us how you are doing and maintaining that !
Dec 04, 2019 11:03 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
...
Luis -

As someone who works for an REP, I can attest that there is a healthy amount of concern being raised by the REP community about these changes. Are there some disreputable training companies out there? Sure. But is moving to a one source model the only or best solution to address that? Questionable.

The cynic in me says this is one more way for PMI to increase its financial reserves.

What is really disappointing is that this announcement was made a couple of months after they announced the exam date change. Many REPs had invested effort in updating their materials for the new exam - that is now wasted effort.

Kiron
Thinking well ...
I can only agree with you: "The cynic in me says this is yet another way for PMI to increase its financial reserves"
Dec 04, 2019 10:19 PM
Replying to Robert Gan
...
Is this yet another way to help PMI's coffers or a real initiative to ensure the training must at least meet the minimum quality standard?

If it's the later, how can you gauge a trainer's quality of delivery except to see them in action, and pose questions during delivery to see how the open ended questions are responded to as a show of competence?

How much time to test the trainers, number of questions to asked, who are qualified to be examiners/testers.

The current REP systems control bring little value to assure the public of PMI contribution. A check of REP handouts is nothing.It may be good but it is the individuals conducting the training that matters and many are truly lacking in terms of knowledge, exposure and biz skills to even understand what they teach. Unless competency tested, the decay in quality education will continue.
Dear Robert
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

On second thought ... it can only be: "This is another way to help PMI coffers"

Your question makes sense: "How can you gauge a trainer's quality of delivery except to see them in action, and pose questions during delivery to see how the open ended questions are answered to a show of competence?"
Dec 04, 2019 6:18 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
...
Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

I fully understand that PMI is interested in the people giving training ensuring the minimum quality of preparation

Is the exam not selective enough?

When a person enrolls in the exam, he or she shares with PMI where they took the preparation course.

Is the treatment of these data not sufficient to audit the REP's with the highest failure rate?

Simply use the technology
I can't weigh in much on this Luis. I would be interested to see others feedback though.

RK
Dec 04, 2019 6:18 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
...
Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

I fully understand that PMI is interested in the people giving training ensuring the minimum quality of preparation

Is the exam not selective enough?

When a person enrolls in the exam, he or she shares with PMI where they took the preparation course.

Is the treatment of these data not sufficient to audit the REP's with the highest failure rate?

Simply use the technology
Minor correction, PMI asks for your PM training, not PMP Exam Prep training, they only count your first 35 hours of reported training (and it doesn't need to be from a REP).
They could easily change their application into more of a survey to get the information you're driving at, but if I were cynical I'd say that could break their business model that relates to the "train the trainer" direction they are going to.
Page: 1 2 next>  

Please login or join to reply

Content ID:
ADVERTISEMENTS
ADVERTISEMENT

Sponsors