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Instead of looking backward, i will risk to make some predictions to 2020 and you what to take a chance to?
After exchange emails with our dear CEO Sunil about PMI-ACP i will risk do the following predictions:
1 - DA and PMI-ACP will be complementary certifications ( so PMI-ACP will in fact loose value and leverage DA through PMI-ACP)
2 - As DA as about 4000 members the strategy of PMI is try to influence the about 30000 PMI-ACP certificated members to adhere to Discipline Agile ( Business Strategy )
3 - In 2020 the methodologie of PM square will grow substantially, even more if the european commission become a mandatory certfication to be allowed to execute projects to the institution.
4 - Discipline Agile will not grow as expected.
5 - PMP certification will continue to increase the reputation.

This are just predictions not my whishes you are free to disagree, what are yours?
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Dear Alexandre
Interesting these predictions
Thanks for sharing

It's hard to make predictions but everything points in the direction of what you said

I would like Disciplined Agile certifications to remain autonomous from PMI, otherwise PMP certification loses market position
I follow in theory and practice DAD from the very begining it was written and published including I interacted with Mr. Scott Ambler in several forums and he had the enormous kindness and willingness to dialogue and exchange opinions with me, thing that helped me a lot to the best understanding of DAD. People forget, just in case they know about DAD, that the power is the basement on architecture which is the basement of Agile. One of the reasons is because is fully applicable beyond the software domain on top of any type of method, which is Agile by definition due to Agile was created with systemic theory in mind, outside the software domain (no matter the software people was the real contributor to Agile), and BETTER: if you apply Agile in the right way there is nothing to scale after and DAD helps on that. With that said, while I "pushed" the use of DAD as a mean to implement Agile approaches each time I have the opportunity to do that if the environment and the future strategy of the organization fit for that, I have to say (whithout sound rude, please is not my intention) that before the PMI adquired DAD few people know about it. Perhaps it was because both creators of DAD instead of taking a "marketing profile" use their time to make things betteer and better to improve DAD. Unfortunatelly that is not the same some of the "fathers" of Agile are done in the last years. NOW MY HOPE, MY WISH FOR THE FUTURE: the PMI, which this step it took with DAD, has the greatest opportunity to put Agile beyond software. In the past, except when the Software Extension form PMBOK was created, that was the big mistake the PMI took. Remember that you can read outside there about the PMI approach is software related when it is not right, but because the PMI´s Agile Guide, which is software related, the perception was reinforced. So, I hope, I wish that Scott Ambler can work inside the PMI to leverage the project management world (portfolio and program included) to the next level with DAD and keep project management on top of any approach, any process model/process life cycle, any method and any tool. If not, the project management world will loose the rest of value that still holds
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2 replies by Alexandre Costa and Andrew Soswa
Jan 01, 2020 8:23 AM
Alexandre Costa
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Dear Sérgio,

With the strategic experience i am sure you have , you know for sure that whishes are not the same as predictions, hopes and finally the raw reality.

I also hope that DA Agile succeds in this global world , but i was hoping also that specially all the members with the PMI-ACP certifications ( that are affected deeply by this changes ) were called to participate and be envolved in that transformation and do not have to pay two memberships to participate. One in PMI other in DA to have access to some common things and then to subsets of each area acording to the subscription. In this moment i think that the PMI world is divided between DA and PMP causing mistrush and leaving to think this is a profit strategy.

Thanks for your precious thougths.
Alexandre Costa
Jan 06, 2020 1:11 PM
Andrew Soswa
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I am new to DA. It's interesting approach. I disagree that DAgilists claim to be the only true project management methodology.
The process life-cycle usually goes through infancy, growth&expansion, general acceptance. In my opinion, Agile is still going through growth phase, mainly because there are so many Agile methodologies. Eventually, they will converge OR as I claim; there will be one 'better' PM methodology for product/service type. For example, hybrid waterfall for construction, while Scrum for small software project, Kanban for small compliance, etc.
There is a saying by Agile sales that 'Everything Agile is great, and everything great is Agile' - should we all jump on bandwagon and replace Agile word with DA?
Jan 01, 2020 7:12 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I follow in theory and practice DAD from the very begining it was written and published including I interacted with Mr. Scott Ambler in several forums and he had the enormous kindness and willingness to dialogue and exchange opinions with me, thing that helped me a lot to the best understanding of DAD. People forget, just in case they know about DAD, that the power is the basement on architecture which is the basement of Agile. One of the reasons is because is fully applicable beyond the software domain on top of any type of method, which is Agile by definition due to Agile was created with systemic theory in mind, outside the software domain (no matter the software people was the real contributor to Agile), and BETTER: if you apply Agile in the right way there is nothing to scale after and DAD helps on that. With that said, while I "pushed" the use of DAD as a mean to implement Agile approaches each time I have the opportunity to do that if the environment and the future strategy of the organization fit for that, I have to say (whithout sound rude, please is not my intention) that before the PMI adquired DAD few people know about it. Perhaps it was because both creators of DAD instead of taking a "marketing profile" use their time to make things betteer and better to improve DAD. Unfortunatelly that is not the same some of the "fathers" of Agile are done in the last years. NOW MY HOPE, MY WISH FOR THE FUTURE: the PMI, which this step it took with DAD, has the greatest opportunity to put Agile beyond software. In the past, except when the Software Extension form PMBOK was created, that was the big mistake the PMI took. Remember that you can read outside there about the PMI approach is software related when it is not right, but because the PMI´s Agile Guide, which is software related, the perception was reinforced. So, I hope, I wish that Scott Ambler can work inside the PMI to leverage the project management world (portfolio and program included) to the next level with DAD and keep project management on top of any approach, any process model/process life cycle, any method and any tool. If not, the project management world will loose the rest of value that still holds
Dear Sérgio,

With the strategic experience i am sure you have , you know for sure that whishes are not the same as predictions, hopes and finally the raw reality.

I also hope that DA Agile succeds in this global world , but i was hoping also that specially all the members with the PMI-ACP certifications ( that are affected deeply by this changes ) were called to participate and be envolved in that transformation and do not have to pay two memberships to participate. One in PMI other in DA to have access to some common things and then to subsets of each area acording to the subscription. In this moment i think that the PMI world is divided between DA and PMP causing mistrush and leaving to think this is a profit strategy.

Thanks for your precious thougths.
Alexandre Costa
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Jan 01, 2020 8:42 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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I agree. That´s because I used the words wishes and hope. I have the PMI-ACP and I do not think I will be affected at all. Just taken your comment "as-is" (please do not get it wrong) see that you are using "DAD Agile" which is the first step to fail putting an extra qualifier. On the other side, predictions must be done based on information and there is no information available on the matter (at least as far as I know) so instead of predictions, just in case I tried to write something about the future on this matter, I will fall in the domain of seers, which I do not like. So, I prefer to wait for PMI strategy and information. No matter that, I expressed my wish and hope with the hope that Mr Scott Ambler and other people involved on the strategy defintion read that and perhaps my humble option could help. To be honest, I have not the same hope for all related to FLEX.
Jan 01, 2020 8:23 AM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Dear Sérgio,

With the strategic experience i am sure you have , you know for sure that whishes are not the same as predictions, hopes and finally the raw reality.

I also hope that DA Agile succeds in this global world , but i was hoping also that specially all the members with the PMI-ACP certifications ( that are affected deeply by this changes ) were called to participate and be envolved in that transformation and do not have to pay two memberships to participate. One in PMI other in DA to have access to some common things and then to subsets of each area acording to the subscription. In this moment i think that the PMI world is divided between DA and PMP causing mistrush and leaving to think this is a profit strategy.

Thanks for your precious thougths.
Alexandre Costa
I agree. That´s because I used the words wishes and hope. I have the PMI-ACP and I do not think I will be affected at all. Just taken your comment "as-is" (please do not get it wrong) see that you are using "DAD Agile" which is the first step to fail putting an extra qualifier. On the other side, predictions must be done based on information and there is no information available on the matter (at least as far as I know) so instead of predictions, just in case I tried to write something about the future on this matter, I will fall in the domain of seers, which I do not like. So, I prefer to wait for PMI strategy and information. No matter that, I expressed my wish and hope with the hope that Mr Scott Ambler and other people involved on the strategy defintion read that and perhaps my humble option could help. To be honest, I have not the same hope for all related to FLEX.
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1 reply by Alexandre Costa
Jan 01, 2020 9:15 AM
Alexandre Costa
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Dear Sérgio,

DA Agile was a mistake of written in practice i was repeating myself , you have right about that fact, normally i only won't to say DA. About waiting for information we know depending of the waiting time could be a bad strategy.

I am always greateful to read your opinions, are always valuable to me.
I whish you a great 2020.
Alexandre Costa.
Jan 01, 2020 8:42 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I agree. That´s because I used the words wishes and hope. I have the PMI-ACP and I do not think I will be affected at all. Just taken your comment "as-is" (please do not get it wrong) see that you are using "DAD Agile" which is the first step to fail putting an extra qualifier. On the other side, predictions must be done based on information and there is no information available on the matter (at least as far as I know) so instead of predictions, just in case I tried to write something about the future on this matter, I will fall in the domain of seers, which I do not like. So, I prefer to wait for PMI strategy and information. No matter that, I expressed my wish and hope with the hope that Mr Scott Ambler and other people involved on the strategy defintion read that and perhaps my humble option could help. To be honest, I have not the same hope for all related to FLEX.
Dear Sérgio,

DA Agile was a mistake of written in practice i was repeating myself , you have right about that fact, normally i only won't to say DA. About waiting for information we know depending of the waiting time could be a bad strategy.

I am always greateful to read your opinions, are always valuable to me.
I whish you a great 2020.
Alexandre Costa.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Jan 01, 2020 9:33 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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@Alexandre I always try to participate in debates that I consider could help me to learn and improve myself then my gratitude is with you. Because of that my mistake is most of the times put passion when I write my comments including it english is not my native language so please do not take my previous comment as an intention to pointed out a mistake (by the way I can write in Brazilian Portuguesse in the future but I do not know if you consider that Portuguesse...jejejeje). Related to information, I take a simplistic position in this type of cases (not in other type of cases): I will not spend time in something I can not manage. Mainly because all related to PMI certifications will not create an impact to me and I believe for other people. PMI has made a lot of marketing related to the benefits its certifications can provide which are not real in the practice. I can say that because I have the opportunity to work in the past and working today in the top 100/300 companies in the whole world. It does not mean I'm belittling the PMI certifications. In fact, I have 3 or them. Just to remember, certifications like PMI OPM related that was killed or certifications like program or portfolio that my perception they are going to being killed in the future (just my perception, no more than that) because the lack of consistency they have.
Jan 01, 2020 9:15 AM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Dear Sérgio,

DA Agile was a mistake of written in practice i was repeating myself , you have right about that fact, normally i only won't to say DA. About waiting for information we know depending of the waiting time could be a bad strategy.

I am always greateful to read your opinions, are always valuable to me.
I whish you a great 2020.
Alexandre Costa.
@Alexandre I always try to participate in debates that I consider could help me to learn and improve myself then my gratitude is with you. Because of that my mistake is most of the times put passion when I write my comments including it english is not my native language so please do not take my previous comment as an intention to pointed out a mistake (by the way I can write in Brazilian Portuguesse in the future but I do not know if you consider that Portuguesse...jejejeje). Related to information, I take a simplistic position in this type of cases (not in other type of cases): I will not spend time in something I can not manage. Mainly because all related to PMI certifications will not create an impact to me and I believe for other people. PMI has made a lot of marketing related to the benefits its certifications can provide which are not real in the practice. I can say that because I have the opportunity to work in the past and working today in the top 100/300 companies in the whole world. It does not mean I'm belittling the PMI certifications. In fact, I have 3 or them. Just to remember, certifications like PMI OPM related that was killed or certifications like program or portfolio that my perception they are going to being killed in the future (just my perception, no more than that) because the lack of consistency they have.
A few comments:

1. There is definitely a plan for the DA toolkit to be extended beyond its roots in IT. In early 2020 they will be splitting the process goals in DAD to differentiate the generic ones which apply to all domains from the IT-centric ones. I also expect that the work which commenced on DAE re: non-technology process blades, will be continuing.

2. As far as the certifications go, I think we can conjecture all we want, but I'd say that PMI has enough experience running certification programs to have learned some hard lessons so I will lean towards optimism. I would say that the ACP is focused on practitioners of any type, not just on PMs or Agile Leads whereas the DALSM and forthcoming DALPM certifications are more role centric so I believe co-existence is quite possible if that is part of the master plan.

3. One of the best outcomes of the acquisition is that Scott & Al are able to focus 100% on thought leadership whereas previously both were heavily involved with delivery. They also have access to a broader group of supporting folks within PMI and the large volunteer community to help build out the offerings.

Kiron
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2 replies by Alexandre Costa and Sergio Luis Conte
Jan 01, 2020 1:50 PM
Alexandre Costa
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Dear kiron,

My concerns is not about DA and is merits and value to organizations.
Is point 2:
1 - optimism and trust.
2 - sudent changes in DA certifications using ACP as base.
3 - Two memberships to access a subset of common resources with similar purposes.( PMI should only be one)
4 - ACP will serve for everything and for nothing at the same time and is base of CDAP.

I must be clear about this, the communication of PMI, or the lack of communication, does not inspire confidence or optimism.

I think this is the last time I will speak about the subject as is becoming repetitive even more because i know @kiron you are an interested part in DA you are betting in the discipline you are are already an instructor-CDAI, advantages of your geographic location and also merit from your long experience in agility, networking and dedication to DA for sure. But for me this may already bring some bias to the discussion.
Who am I to question PMI's purposes. just an insignificant member with his own ideas. I could be more optimistic, or more pessimistic, but my militar background tough me that the best course of action is to be realistic and in the end be prepared for the three outcomes.

I always see value in your interventions and learn a lot with them.
I whish success in your achievements in DA and in your other professional bets as in your personal life and a great 2020.

Alexandre Costa
Jan 01, 2020 2:37 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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Thank you very much @Kiron. Your comments help to increase my hope.
Jan 01, 2020 12:45 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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A few comments:

1. There is definitely a plan for the DA toolkit to be extended beyond its roots in IT. In early 2020 they will be splitting the process goals in DAD to differentiate the generic ones which apply to all domains from the IT-centric ones. I also expect that the work which commenced on DAE re: non-technology process blades, will be continuing.

2. As far as the certifications go, I think we can conjecture all we want, but I'd say that PMI has enough experience running certification programs to have learned some hard lessons so I will lean towards optimism. I would say that the ACP is focused on practitioners of any type, not just on PMs or Agile Leads whereas the DALSM and forthcoming DALPM certifications are more role centric so I believe co-existence is quite possible if that is part of the master plan.

3. One of the best outcomes of the acquisition is that Scott & Al are able to focus 100% on thought leadership whereas previously both were heavily involved with delivery. They also have access to a broader group of supporting folks within PMI and the large volunteer community to help build out the offerings.

Kiron
Dear kiron,

My concerns is not about DA and is merits and value to organizations.
Is point 2:
1 - optimism and trust.
2 - sudent changes in DA certifications using ACP as base.
3 - Two memberships to access a subset of common resources with similar purposes.( PMI should only be one)
4 - ACP will serve for everything and for nothing at the same time and is base of CDAP.

I must be clear about this, the communication of PMI, or the lack of communication, does not inspire confidence or optimism.

I think this is the last time I will speak about the subject as is becoming repetitive even more because i know @kiron you are an interested part in DA you are betting in the discipline you are are already an instructor-CDAI, advantages of your geographic location and also merit from your long experience in agility, networking and dedication to DA for sure. But for me this may already bring some bias to the discussion.
Who am I to question PMI's purposes. just an insignificant member with his own ideas. I could be more optimistic, or more pessimistic, but my militar background tough me that the best course of action is to be realistic and in the end be prepared for the three outcomes.

I always see value in your interventions and learn a lot with them.
I whish success in your achievements in DA and in your other professional bets as in your personal life and a great 2020.

Alexandre Costa
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Jan 01, 2020 3:27 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Alexandre -

The DA gang is holding a webinar this upcoming week for current instructors and partners so it is possible some more might be revealed then. If there is any more info pertaining specifically to the certification road map, I will provide an update (assuming it is not considered confidential, of course).

It is the start of a new year, so I am inclined to be more optimistic than I might be later on :-)

Have a great start to your 2020, Alexandre!

Kiron
Jan 01, 2020 12:45 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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A few comments:

1. There is definitely a plan for the DA toolkit to be extended beyond its roots in IT. In early 2020 they will be splitting the process goals in DAD to differentiate the generic ones which apply to all domains from the IT-centric ones. I also expect that the work which commenced on DAE re: non-technology process blades, will be continuing.

2. As far as the certifications go, I think we can conjecture all we want, but I'd say that PMI has enough experience running certification programs to have learned some hard lessons so I will lean towards optimism. I would say that the ACP is focused on practitioners of any type, not just on PMs or Agile Leads whereas the DALSM and forthcoming DALPM certifications are more role centric so I believe co-existence is quite possible if that is part of the master plan.

3. One of the best outcomes of the acquisition is that Scott & Al are able to focus 100% on thought leadership whereas previously both were heavily involved with delivery. They also have access to a broader group of supporting folks within PMI and the large volunteer community to help build out the offerings.

Kiron
Thank you very much @Kiron. Your comments help to increase my hope.
Jan 01, 2020 1:50 PM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Dear kiron,

My concerns is not about DA and is merits and value to organizations.
Is point 2:
1 - optimism and trust.
2 - sudent changes in DA certifications using ACP as base.
3 - Two memberships to access a subset of common resources with similar purposes.( PMI should only be one)
4 - ACP will serve for everything and for nothing at the same time and is base of CDAP.

I must be clear about this, the communication of PMI, or the lack of communication, does not inspire confidence or optimism.

I think this is the last time I will speak about the subject as is becoming repetitive even more because i know @kiron you are an interested part in DA you are betting in the discipline you are are already an instructor-CDAI, advantages of your geographic location and also merit from your long experience in agility, networking and dedication to DA for sure. But for me this may already bring some bias to the discussion.
Who am I to question PMI's purposes. just an insignificant member with his own ideas. I could be more optimistic, or more pessimistic, but my militar background tough me that the best course of action is to be realistic and in the end be prepared for the three outcomes.

I always see value in your interventions and learn a lot with them.
I whish success in your achievements in DA and in your other professional bets as in your personal life and a great 2020.

Alexandre Costa
Alexandre -

The DA gang is holding a webinar this upcoming week for current instructors and partners so it is possible some more might be revealed then. If there is any more info pertaining specifically to the certification road map, I will provide an update (assuming it is not considered confidential, of course).

It is the start of a new year, so I am inclined to be more optimistic than I might be later on :-)

Have a great start to your 2020, Alexandre!

Kiron
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