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The experiments from PMI do not stop surprising me, for the negative, any day to be volunteer in something you have to be pm guru.
Agile/Hybrid Micro-Certification Pilot Test Taker:
Experience:
Minimum experience required: 5 years leading and directing projects, with additional experience in an agile/hybrid environment. PMP in good standing in at least 3 years.

Risk Management Micro-Certification Pilot Test Taker:
Experience:
Minimum experience required: 5 years leading and directing projects, with additional experience in Risk Management. PMP in good standing in at least 3 years.

It will not be time for PMP to stop to think which direction want to take, for me is more and more confused!!!
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Alexandre -

The micro-certifications were announced at last year's Global Conference as another way for those who have held a PMP for many years to differentiate themselves at a lower cost and with lower effort than with PMI's existing "full" certifications.

It makes complete sense why PMI is doing this as they have 1,000,000+ PMPs of which only a small fraction are paying to get additional "full" certifications. If PMI wants to generate more revenue, micro-certs seem like a good option.

From a consumer perspective though, I'm skeptical of the value of these :-)

Kiron
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2 replies by Alexandre Costa and Rami Kaibni
Feb 28, 2020 4:24 PM
Alexandre Costa
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Kiron,

Thanks for clarifying this, but I didn't know, as usual the communication apparently doesn't reach to everyone, nevertheless I think that is more important help those who are in the beginning of the career than the ones that have many years of experience.

As usual I am in the other side of the world without any possibility to attend the Global conference, at least in October I will attend to the Scrum 2020 Global Gathering in Lisbon as they have the good sense of change the country location every year. PMI has focused in India and China it's normal, it's business and profit.

I'm really with so many doubts if in March I should renew or not the PMI membership as the benefits are so few at both levels global and local I am seeing PM2 as a good alternative they need engaged members.

Thanks again for the explanation.
Alexandre
Feb 28, 2020 4:27 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Kiron

Did you apply for those opportunities ?

RK
Feb 28, 2020 4:10 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Alexandre -

The micro-certifications were announced at last year's Global Conference as another way for those who have held a PMP for many years to differentiate themselves at a lower cost and with lower effort than with PMI's existing "full" certifications.

It makes complete sense why PMI is doing this as they have 1,000,000+ PMPs of which only a small fraction are paying to get additional "full" certifications. If PMI wants to generate more revenue, micro-certs seem like a good option.

From a consumer perspective though, I'm skeptical of the value of these :-)

Kiron
Kiron,

Thanks for clarifying this, but I didn't know, as usual the communication apparently doesn't reach to everyone, nevertheless I think that is more important help those who are in the beginning of the career than the ones that have many years of experience.

As usual I am in the other side of the world without any possibility to attend the Global conference, at least in October I will attend to the Scrum 2020 Global Gathering in Lisbon as they have the good sense of change the country location every year. PMI has focused in India and China it's normal, it's business and profit.

I'm really with so many doubts if in March I should renew or not the PMI membership as the benefits are so few at both levels global and local I am seeing PM2 as a good alternative they need engaged members.

Thanks again for the explanation.
Alexandre
Alexandre

I just knew about those initiatives today when I received the VRMS e-mail.

To be honest, I find this as a good initiative as it serves both parties. It will probably help PMI generate more revenue and at the same time helps PMI members who can't afford (Time and money wise) to do the full certifications, get the micro ones and distinguish themselves in the market.

This is my opinion.

RK
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1 reply by Alexandre Costa
Feb 28, 2020 4:33 PM
Alexandre Costa
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Rami ,

To be honest , all recent alternatives presented by PMI are for me disappointed, options like DA to expensive, options like that one's to many years of experience. And the PMBOK revolution plus DA , sends ACP to the bottom of the chain of value, my next certifications will not be in PMI for sure.
I am an engaged member , from there must result some kind of benefit as you say in Portugal " não se trabalha para aquecer" in English is something like that " no one likes work only to warm the body".

Alexandre
Feb 28, 2020 4:10 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Alexandre -

The micro-certifications were announced at last year's Global Conference as another way for those who have held a PMP for many years to differentiate themselves at a lower cost and with lower effort than with PMI's existing "full" certifications.

It makes complete sense why PMI is doing this as they have 1,000,000+ PMPs of which only a small fraction are paying to get additional "full" certifications. If PMI wants to generate more revenue, micro-certs seem like a good option.

From a consumer perspective though, I'm skeptical of the value of these :-)

Kiron
Kiron

Did you apply for those opportunities ?

RK
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Feb 29, 2020 8:55 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Yes, I did Rami - would be interesting to be a pilot participant to help to improve the quality of these. I had fun writing PMP exam questions on three occasions a decade or so back, so this will be a chance to do something similar.
Feb 28, 2020 4:26 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Alexandre

I just knew about those initiatives today when I received the VRMS e-mail.

To be honest, I find this as a good initiative as it serves both parties. It will probably help PMI generate more revenue and at the same time helps PMI members who can't afford (Time and money wise) to do the full certifications, get the micro ones and distinguish themselves in the market.

This is my opinion.

RK
Rami ,

To be honest , all recent alternatives presented by PMI are for me disappointed, options like DA to expensive, options like that one's to many years of experience. And the PMBOK revolution plus DA , sends ACP to the bottom of the chain of value, my next certifications will not be in PMI for sure.
I am an engaged member , from there must result some kind of benefit as you say in Portugal " não se trabalha para aquecer" in English is something like that " no one likes work only to warm the body".

Alexandre
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2 replies by Kiron Bondale and Rami Kaibni
Feb 28, 2020 7:18 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Alexandre

While I understand your frustration, I probably will differ a bit with you on this.

Yes, some things are disappointing but as someone holding multiple certifications from 7 different global organizations, I can see the value in PMI certifications. At the end its a cost-benefit analysis you have to do and see if it works for you or not.

I wish you all the best, always :-)

RK
Feb 29, 2020 8:56 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Alexandre -

It will be a shame for PMI to lose a member like you. While the in-person events and their certification changes might be prohibitively expensive and challenging for someone from out of North America to attend, they do still provide a lot of virtual value. Think of the standards, practice guides and other knowledge resources provided as well as this community.

Kiron
Feb 28, 2020 4:33 PM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Rami ,

To be honest , all recent alternatives presented by PMI are for me disappointed, options like DA to expensive, options like that one's to many years of experience. And the PMBOK revolution plus DA , sends ACP to the bottom of the chain of value, my next certifications will not be in PMI for sure.
I am an engaged member , from there must result some kind of benefit as you say in Portugal " não se trabalha para aquecer" in English is something like that " no one likes work only to warm the body".

Alexandre
Alexandre

While I understand your frustration, I probably will differ a bit with you on this.

Yes, some things are disappointing but as someone holding multiple certifications from 7 different global organizations, I can see the value in PMI certifications. At the end its a cost-benefit analysis you have to do and see if it works for you or not.

I wish you all the best, always :-)

RK
Feb 28, 2020 4:27 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Kiron

Did you apply for those opportunities ?

RK
Yes, I did Rami - would be interesting to be a pilot participant to help to improve the quality of these. I had fun writing PMP exam questions on three occasions a decade or so back, so this will be a chance to do something similar.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Feb 29, 2020 4:48 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Likewise Kiron. I received an email later that the closing dating wasn’t changed but I’ve submitted the applications already. Did you get that email ?
Feb 28, 2020 4:33 PM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Rami ,

To be honest , all recent alternatives presented by PMI are for me disappointed, options like DA to expensive, options like that one's to many years of experience. And the PMBOK revolution plus DA , sends ACP to the bottom of the chain of value, my next certifications will not be in PMI for sure.
I am an engaged member , from there must result some kind of benefit as you say in Portugal " não se trabalha para aquecer" in English is something like that " no one likes work only to warm the body".

Alexandre
Alexandre -

It will be a shame for PMI to lose a member like you. While the in-person events and their certification changes might be prohibitively expensive and challenging for someone from out of North America to attend, they do still provide a lot of virtual value. Think of the standards, practice guides and other knowledge resources provided as well as this community.

Kiron
Aren't we talking about open mindsets, looking for challenges, continuous change, trial and error, trustful relationships and getting out of our comfort zone?

Where is our courage to change paths and engage in constructive dialogue. Maybe the PMI we see evolving is no longer what we have experienced for decades, like so many other truths.
Our purpose and values may stay the same, but we cannot freeze and neither can PMI. PMI is an opportunity to prototype your professional journey.
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1 reply by Alexandre Costa
Feb 29, 2020 11:30 AM
Alexandre Costa
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Hi Thomas,

Embracing the change does not mean I have to accept all that is provided, but instead choose paths that could potential increase my knowledge and favour my career. As any person when planing training and certifications, I have to pay attention to scope , cost, schedule, quality. Is this according with my budget, if not what are the alternatives. ( I will making one year of PMI in the end of March, so I already suffer more changes in one year that you probably in 10 years but this is me guessing ) Everything as an opportunity window maybe I came to late, this maybe is good to the new generations, the reason of being member of PMI was influenced a lot by Luis, if it was not him probably today I was a member of IPMA because the events and activities of IPMA in Portugal are more frequent then in PMI and the recognition value between this institutions is the same to the Portuguese organizations.

Alexandre
Feb 29, 2020 10:11 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Aren't we talking about open mindsets, looking for challenges, continuous change, trial and error, trustful relationships and getting out of our comfort zone?

Where is our courage to change paths and engage in constructive dialogue. Maybe the PMI we see evolving is no longer what we have experienced for decades, like so many other truths.
Our purpose and values may stay the same, but we cannot freeze and neither can PMI. PMI is an opportunity to prototype your professional journey.
Hi Thomas,

Embracing the change does not mean I have to accept all that is provided, but instead choose paths that could potential increase my knowledge and favour my career. As any person when planing training and certifications, I have to pay attention to scope , cost, schedule, quality. Is this according with my budget, if not what are the alternatives. ( I will making one year of PMI in the end of March, so I already suffer more changes in one year that you probably in 10 years but this is me guessing ) Everything as an opportunity window maybe I came to late, this maybe is good to the new generations, the reason of being member of PMI was influenced a lot by Luis, if it was not him probably today I was a member of IPMA because the events and activities of IPMA in Portugal are more frequent then in PMI and the recognition value between this institutions is the same to the Portuguese organizations.

Alexandre
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