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PMP disapointment after exam
First I would say that as an experienced project manager already using most of the tools presented in the PMBOK, I really enjoyed (even if it was a bit difficult to digest) the process oriented philosofy of the PMBok, and I think that the standard would complete my different approaches of projects (Previous experiences in the army, then in managing building construction project, flight company direction, and now for 3 years as project manager consultant for many industries 500M€ projects )

But I have a problem : I was very disappointed by the exam. I followed all the recommandations, learned everything, brain dump, phylosofy, itto and more... And i still failed twice at the exam.

-My first fail was with a slightly below targer on the executing process group.

-When I passed the exam for the second time, many questions were similars and I choose to have a different approach and it worked on one point :
I got some success where i failed before (in executing), but I had worst marks in initiating and closing process groups. The ones whom are the easiest for me.

I passed the exam on a french version, and during almost 60-70% of questions I had the feeling that the questions could be seen differently, depending of the approach (if you emphasis the first or the second sentence for instance). I was really upset and badly thought :
"Okay that question sux, the PM philosophy asking clarity and transparency from project managers is clearly not in that question. And I would like to have a PM exam maker in front of me to demonstrate by semantic that there are more that one possibility to answer to the question depending of the point of view".

I also learned political sciences, international relations, neurosciences, NPL, psychology and more ...
(thats not an autority argument, but its always difficult to appear objective on criticizing something you failed, and that was clearly not the first examination I failed in My life, but cleary the only one bringing me somewhere to complain with a great feeling of unfairness).
I also add the uncomfortable feeling that PMI was a buisiness first, and that questions are just putted here because of some statistical samples, and that these questions would become "statisticaly harder" with time because of candidates preparation.
Finally I thought that those question could appear particularly difficult for people whom don't have a linear or a standard way of thinking with the propensity, the tendency to questions things deeply, and need to see unbreakable logic especially to answer to a multiple choice test.

I also spoke a bit by chance, with a PMI representative in France; and he aggreed on my point of view telling me that the exam was not anymore adapted to young generations with different way of thinking for him, and could appears a bit random sometimes.

So today, I would like to get that exam, this is something important for me. I still have one chance left, but I would like to register for the new exam with the hope that it would be slightly better for me.

Would you have some advices for me ? (expecially to take the new exam)
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Thomas -

Sorry to hear about the challenges you've had with the exam. I will say that having participated in a few PMP exam item writing sessions conducted by PMI that there is effort spent in ensuring that if there are issues with the interpretation of questions or the answers which might cause more than an acceptable number of candidates to pick the wrong choice that they do rewrite or even discard the question.

I would strongly recommend sticking with the current exam as there are NO self-study materials available to help you prepare for the new one. No practice exams, no self-study guides, no prep courses. These are likely to become available shortly before or after the new exam launches, but will be of questionable quality till there is enough "real" intel available about the exam.

Good luck!

Kiron
Thomas,

I second Kiron here, the new exam content will be a significant change from the current and there is not much to prepare for it on the market. Look at the exam content outline yourself.

Many people fail in the exam, and you might have another complexity by using the French language exam (which might not be translated well and not as much tested as the English, also there are differences between Canadian and native French language).

For sure your complexity is your experience and background, which may produce intuitive answers that go vs the PMBoK philosophy. Even you accept that you have to answer according to the exam, and not how you ran projects. One way to mitigate this is to build another intuition and different heuristics. By doing mock exams as much as you can.

If you use a good set of mock exam questions (per knowledge area), and repeat them until you have 90% not only correct but also are certain about your answers, this should be a proven path to improve. You can even measure your progress, and need to go back to theory if you do the same question wring again and again.
I understand your disappointment Thomas F.
I also agree with Kiron, don't attempt the new exam without tight preparation. I wrote the pilot exam in March and we (pilot exam takers) are just hopeful that the result will be out this week. Too mush suspense and the 50/50 Predictive and Agile approach on the question will stress your heart out if you see uncertainties in the existing exam.
Stay with your simple language and take more mock exams.
You will get it this third time.
Thomas

Sorry to hear about your experience. I agree with Kiron and Thomas.

However, from yoru statement, I gathered you passed on the second attempt ? Is that so ?

RK
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2 replies by Jonathan Lee and Stéphane Parent
May 28, 2020 4:07 PM
Stéphane Parent
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Thomas used "passed". I believe he used it to mean "took".
Jun 20, 2020 4:59 AM
Jonathan Lee
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Indeed, "j'ai passé l'examen" in French means to take the exam. "J'ai réussi l'examen" is the French way to say you've passed the exam. Interesting difference! Took me awhile to get used to it too haha.
May 26, 2020 3:03 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Thomas

Sorry to hear about your experience. I agree with Kiron and Thomas.

However, from yoru statement, I gathered you passed on the second attempt ? Is that so ?

RK
Thomas used "passed". I believe he used it to mean "took".
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1 reply by Thomas Fradier
May 28, 2020 4:34 PM
Thomas Fradier
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Exactly!
Common frenchy mistake with english, I apologise, i wouldn’t hurt your shakespearian language (cetainly a stupid frenchy concept too, the idea of hurting language ;)).

Thanks for all your advices, i try to keep faith then and to find a way to get that Pmp :)
May 28, 2020 4:07 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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Thomas used "passed". I believe he used it to mean "took".
Exactly!
Common frenchy mistake with english, I apologise, i wouldn’t hurt your shakespearian language (cetainly a stupid frenchy concept too, the idea of hurting language ;)).

Thanks for all your advices, i try to keep faith then and to find a way to get that Pmp :)
Sorry to hear about your experience. I agree with Kiron and Thomas.

Taking more mocks will definitely help , giving full 200 questions in one go in mocks give you manage time and stress.
hi Thomas,
in my opinion, the exam should be taken in English since you prepare for exam from materials, blogs, books in English (i assume) so there is no room for interpretation of semantics and translations from En to Fr.
like any other methodologies, you need to train your beliefs into thinking that methodology is the best and forget what real life situations look like or what may seem common sense to answer some of the questions.
also do as many mock exams (those offered free on various sites) as possible to test your concentration capacity throughout 4 hours. wish you all the best
They say the longer you've been a project manager, the harder it is to pass the test - this is a statement I completely agree with. I was actually part of the beta group for the new test coming in Jan and I passed it, I really thought it was geared more towards my real world knowledge with a PMBOK boost. I know it's an unpopular opinion here, but you may want to consider the new test.
May 26, 2020 3:03 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Thomas

Sorry to hear about your experience. I agree with Kiron and Thomas.

However, from yoru statement, I gathered you passed on the second attempt ? Is that so ?

RK
Indeed, "j'ai passé l'examen" in French means to take the exam. "J'ai réussi l'examen" is the French way to say you've passed the exam. Interesting difference! Took me awhile to get used to it too haha.
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