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Disciplined Agile New Certifications
Today, we received communication for the changes in the DA Cetifications which will be as follows:

- Current Certified Disciplined Agilists (CDA) will automatically become Disciplined Agile Scrum Masters (DASM).

- Current Certified Disciplined Agile Practitioners (CDAP) will automatically become Disciplined Agile Senior Scrum Masters (DASSM).

- Current Disciplined Agile Lean Scrum Masters (DALSMs) will automatically become Disciplined Agile Senior Scrum Masters (DASSM). DASSM has the same two year experience requirement that DALSM had.

Previously, to become a DALSM, you needed two years of experience working on an agile team in a leadership role, like Disciplined Agile scrum master, scrum master, product owner, architecture owner.

However, this (Leadership Role) wasn't a requirement for CDAP so if you had the PMI-ACP certification, you could apply to the CDAP.

That said, not sure how both now are treated the same and would appreciate some insights from professionals who have more information on this.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 19, 2020 12:11 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Welcome Abolfazl
Rami -

that is correct, there is a strong likelihood that some of the folks migrated from the CDAP over to the DASSM will lack the agile leadership experience which the latter requires (for new applicants). They would have been required to have either two years of agile experience OR have their PMI-ACPs but neither requires one to be in a leadership position.

The challenge is that the DASM is a zero experience certification, so it wouldn't have been fair to migrate CDAPs to that so given the two choices, PMI chose to uplift them.

Maybe those of us who become DASSMs can put where we came from in parentheses to differentiate ourselves :-) (e.g. DASSM (DALSM))

Kiron
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 19, 2020 12:17 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Kiron

Thank you. I find PMI's decision unfair for those of us who had all the requirements to attain the DALSM in the past and given that this is happening, it is a sign that PMI's direction with regards to DA is more concentrating on a pure business money generating model than the educational and real experience side of things. Very unfortunate to see this initiative going in this direction but "C'est la Vie" :-)

RK
Nov 19, 2020 8:40 AM
Replying to Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani
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Thank you for sharing
Welcome Abolfazl
Nov 19, 2020 11:03 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Rami -

that is correct, there is a strong likelihood that some of the folks migrated from the CDAP over to the DASSM will lack the agile leadership experience which the latter requires (for new applicants). They would have been required to have either two years of agile experience OR have their PMI-ACPs but neither requires one to be in a leadership position.

The challenge is that the DASM is a zero experience certification, so it wouldn't have been fair to migrate CDAPs to that so given the two choices, PMI chose to uplift them.

Maybe those of us who become DASSMs can put where we came from in parentheses to differentiate ourselves :-) (e.g. DASSM (DALSM))

Kiron
Kiron

Thank you. I find PMI's decision unfair for those of us who had all the requirements to attain the DALSM in the past and given that this is happening, it is a sign that PMI's direction with regards to DA is more concentrating on a pure business money generating model than the educational and real experience side of things. Very unfortunate to see this initiative going in this direction but "C'est la Vie" :-)

RK
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Nov 19, 2020 3:02 PM
Kiron Bondale
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I'd argue that they crossed that bridge when they introduced the PBA a few years back :-)

Kiron
Nov 19, 2020 12:17 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Kiron

Thank you. I find PMI's decision unfair for those of us who had all the requirements to attain the DALSM in the past and given that this is happening, it is a sign that PMI's direction with regards to DA is more concentrating on a pure business money generating model than the educational and real experience side of things. Very unfortunate to see this initiative going in this direction but "C'est la Vie" :-)

RK
I'd argue that they crossed that bridge when they introduced the PBA a few years back :-)

Kiron
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 19, 2020 3:20 PM
Rami Kaibni
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That too but the DA one is really frustrating given that so many were recently certified :-)
Nov 19, 2020 3:02 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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I'd argue that they crossed that bridge when they introduced the PBA a few years back :-)

Kiron
That too but the DA one is really frustrating given that so many were recently certified :-)

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