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What industry is Project Management?
What industry is Project Management?

When I came to Saudi Arabia, my employer provided training services for the Saudi National Guard, and I started to develop training curriculums for them. What I observed was the project and program management of the provided services. My desire to learn about project management stem from my involvement. I studied my masters and PMP for the next five years. Now I want to do more with the knowledge and skills I have learned.

In my spare time, I used job search engines like Indeed, USA Jobs, and Monster for PMP employment opportunities. What I discover is the purpose of my question. Most job postings for PMP certified is in the IT industry, or if I looked specifically in Construction Management, I find opportunity. So, I am asking for your opinion, is project management industry or skill set back with particular field experience?

I know based on a functional versus a project focused organization, we could be an addition or driving force for our assigned projects.
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I think most of us would agree that project management is it's own discipline that can (and should) be applied to many different industries. In that respect, it's similar to accounting or human resources.

However, you are correct that you will see a lot of listings in the IT and construction industries. I will caution you that not all of these job postings are equal. Some construction project manager positions are really contractor positions. Project management skills will certainly help a contractor, but the position requires more knowledge of construction than it does of project management. Similarly, I've interviewed for IT project manager positions that really want a senior developer. Why do they want a PMP? I don't know, I suppose it's the same reason that an entry level position at a call center requires a college degree.
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1 reply by John Rice
Mar 30, 2017 1:52 PM
John Rice
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Thank you, Wade, for your input.
Maybe whoever creates job descriptions allowed scope creep into their document?
My reasoning behind this post was the Program Management Improvement and Accountability Act of 2015 Obama signed. This brings creditability and accountability to PM in regards to government projects.
So, are we now a stand alone? You have a valid point with accounting and HR, even logistics.
Mar 30, 2017 1:24 PM
Replying to Wade Harshman
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I think most of us would agree that project management is it's own discipline that can (and should) be applied to many different industries. In that respect, it's similar to accounting or human resources.

However, you are correct that you will see a lot of listings in the IT and construction industries. I will caution you that not all of these job postings are equal. Some construction project manager positions are really contractor positions. Project management skills will certainly help a contractor, but the position requires more knowledge of construction than it does of project management. Similarly, I've interviewed for IT project manager positions that really want a senior developer. Why do they want a PMP? I don't know, I suppose it's the same reason that an entry level position at a call center requires a college degree.
Thank you, Wade, for your input.
Maybe whoever creates job descriptions allowed scope creep into their document?
My reasoning behind this post was the Program Management Improvement and Accountability Act of 2015 Obama signed. This brings creditability and accountability to PM in regards to government projects.
So, are we now a stand alone? You have a valid point with accounting and HR, even logistics.
All job descriptions I see these days for project management require PMP or Prince 2 .
Program and Project Management is a separate section in job sites within IT or Construction in my observation.
I see clear differences between A Project Manager to lead an application delivery project and focus on the end to end project management stuff, with knowledge of Agile or Waterfall and having had a background in Application development .

This is always separate from a Technical Team Lead . These days I don't often see examples where a Java Developer/Technical Team Lead is asked for PMP skills. They are more often asked for SDLC skills which is expected.
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1 reply by John Rice
Apr 02, 2017 2:37 AM
John Rice
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Deepesh,
Is Project Management a professional or a skill set? Are we a jack of all trades? Or do we need technical expertise to influence our project outcomes? I understand application development need Agile or Waterfall, can their methods still apply elsewhere?
Project management is in all industries, same for accounting, legal, human ressource, and many others.
It not an industry or specific to any. Project manager are in IT, construction, engineering, marketing, industrial, , change management and I'm forgetting many others.
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2 replies by John Rice and Tim Podesta
Apr 01, 2017 6:44 AM
Tim Podesta
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Vincent, I second your point here. There are strong parallels across construction, manufacturing, IT, and change/transformation projects that project managers have in common. What is different is the industry context , culture and language.
Apr 02, 2017 2:39 AM
John Rice
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Vincent,
True, so we are an enhanced skill set of the industry where our expertise is in?
Usually, I don't to make advertising of my contributions, but in this case, I'll do an exception.

If you'll take a look to my the presentation about social media that I presented more than one month ago, there is a slide that will show you the numbers of different industries and companies that have project management. I extracted the information from LinkedIn.

If you love engines, try LinkedIn to get information.

https://www.projectmanagement.com/presenta...ng-Social-Media

Hope it helps.
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1 reply by John Rice
Apr 02, 2017 2:43 AM
John Rice
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Mayte,
Thank you for the Advert on social media.
What is your opinion on project management being an industry or skill set back with particular field experience?
Project Management can be utilized in all industries. There are specific tasks/practices that one has to follow as it applied to the specific industry. Personally I used in Financial, IT, Pharmaceutical, Retail, Conglomerate, Shipping, Healthcare.
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1 reply by John Rice
Apr 02, 2017 2:45 AM
John Rice
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Igor,
The examples you present sounds as if you have operated in functional organizations and resources are departmentalized, true?
There is some points here. The first one is: each person in this world is a project manager because she/he performs project management activities from the time she/he wakes up to the time she/he returns to bed. So, it is not a matter of industry. It is a matter of personal life. Second, you can analyze it thinking in a way of perform project management: PMI, IPMA, GPM, PRINCE2 where some of them are not methods (are guidelines) and others are methods which apply guidelines (PRINCE2). Which all that say then there is not industry. It is up to you if you will create your own career as a generalist (that is what I did and a lot of more other people) or an specialist in a field.
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1 reply by John Rice
Apr 02, 2017 2:48 AM
John Rice
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Sergio,
I like that you decided to walk the untrodden path, how did you manage projects in areas where you has minimum expertise?
Mar 30, 2017 6:33 PM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Project management is in all industries, same for accounting, legal, human ressource, and many others.
It not an industry or specific to any. Project manager are in IT, construction, engineering, marketing, industrial, , change management and I'm forgetting many others.
Vincent, I second your point here. There are strong parallels across construction, manufacturing, IT, and change/transformation projects that project managers have in common. What is different is the industry context , culture and language.
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1 reply by John Rice
Apr 02, 2017 2:52 AM
John Rice
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Tim,
On a macro level of project management, you are right. The methods like Prince2 and PMP still oversee projects from conception to completion, but as PMs, how do we cross different industry context, culture, and language? Or can we?
Mar 30, 2017 6:21 PM
Replying to Deepesh Rammoorthy
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All job descriptions I see these days for project management require PMP or Prince 2 .
Program and Project Management is a separate section in job sites within IT or Construction in my observation.
I see clear differences between A Project Manager to lead an application delivery project and focus on the end to end project management stuff, with knowledge of Agile or Waterfall and having had a background in Application development .

This is always separate from a Technical Team Lead . These days I don't often see examples where a Java Developer/Technical Team Lead is asked for PMP skills. They are more often asked for SDLC skills which is expected.
Deepesh,
Is Project Management a professional or a skill set? Are we a jack of all trades? Or do we need technical expertise to influence our project outcomes? I understand application development need Agile or Waterfall, can their methods still apply elsewhere?
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1 reply by Deepesh Rammoorthy
Apr 02, 2017 3:03 AM
Deepesh Rammoorthy
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Project Management is a skill set and waterfall and agile can be applied to any industry I think. I cannot be sure though because I've always worked in the IT Projects space. Having said that, if I am a construction project manager, it would definitely help if I had a civil engineering or architecture background... Similarly if I deliver projects in IT, a background in IT helps
Mar 30, 2017 6:33 PM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Project management is in all industries, same for accounting, legal, human ressource, and many others.
It not an industry or specific to any. Project manager are in IT, construction, engineering, marketing, industrial, , change management and I'm forgetting many others.
Vincent,
True, so we are an enhanced skill set of the industry where our expertise is in?
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