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Should PMI change the way they award PDU's?
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Someone can work a few years as a project manager and gain further experience, yet only receive a maximum of 8 PDU's from PMI toward their PMP renewal. On the other hand, someone can read a book, even very slowly, and claim 1 PDU for each hour of reading. Is this fair? Shouldn't reading a book or article be worth say 0.25 PDU's or even 0.1 PDU's? What do you think?
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Jan 03, 2018 7:46 AM
Replying to Andrew Craig
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Sure, maybe there can be tweaks here or there, but as a whole, the structure is solid. I'm happy with what has been set-up. Additionally, they had recently changed, so they are fairly dynamic in that regard.

For reading, it is actually 1 PDU for every hour of learning. With the supplied notes from the read, and how it maps to the talent triangle, with the submission reviewed prior to approval. One PDU for a webinar is good. The goal is that we continually learn. The PDU's are simply the carrot for our professional development :)
Completely agree here. I get my PDUs pretty much in one year most of the times, that doesn't stop me from learning or continued professional development.The recent change to have certain number of PDUs in technical, strategic and leadership triangle helps everyone to focus on different facets of professional development too.
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Jan 03, 2018 9:50 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Perhaps PMI wishes to give higher weighting to explicit learning effort as that demonstrates greater initiative and planning than just "doing one's job"?

Kiron
What if doing one's job is training/teaching/coaching others who by participating receive explicit learning? Does working at that job for 750 hours equate to 1 PDU as opposed to reading an article or book for an hour?
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Jan 03, 2018 5:18 PM
Kiron Bondale
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What would be an interesting enhancement would be to add a mandatory experiential requirement to recertification. I know of some folks who haven't done ANY PM-related work in their last cycle but recertified by attending a conference. I think it would be reasonable to require some demonstration that you are actually still working within the profession...

Kiron
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Most of the time, to maintain any kind of professional certification, you need to demonstrate a commitment to continuous learning. IMHO, that's why PMI doesn't let a Project Manager to get all of his PDUs by just doing his job, even though he is pretty good at it.
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I think we are all in agreement that PDU's should be awarded for reading a book or article, watching a webinar, or performing one's duties as a PM over a period of time. The question is are these PDU's weighted appropriately. My example was 1 PDU for 1 hour of reading, does this compare to say 750 hours of PM duties also receiving 1 PDU? Again I am not advocating raising the PDU's for PM practitioner work, rather lowering PDU's for reading a book for 1 hour.
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Jan 03, 2018 4:20 PM
Replying to Sante Vergini
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What if doing one's job is training/teaching/coaching others who by participating receive explicit learning? Does working at that job for 750 hours equate to 1 PDU as opposed to reading an article or book for an hour?
What would be an interesting enhancement would be to add a mandatory experiential requirement to recertification. I know of some folks who haven't done ANY PM-related work in their last cycle but recertified by attending a conference. I think it would be reasonable to require some demonstration that you are actually still working within the profession...

Kiron
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Jan 03, 2018 5:25 PM
Sante Vergini
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Thant's a good point Kiron, but what about academics or trainers?
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Jan 03, 2018 5:18 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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What would be an interesting enhancement would be to add a mandatory experiential requirement to recertification. I know of some folks who haven't done ANY PM-related work in their last cycle but recertified by attending a conference. I think it would be reasonable to require some demonstration that you are actually still working within the profession...

Kiron
Thant's a good point Kiron, but what about academics or trainers?
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Jan 04, 2018 8:06 AM
Kiron Bondale
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When I stated "Working within the profession" I did mean any type of actual work - whether that was leading projects, leading PMOs, mentoring & coaching PMs, developing and delivering PM-related courses, or doing research into PM topics.

Kiron
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Academics and trainers would most likely fall under Creating Content and Giving Presentations.

Regarding work experience, I can see it being worth less - how does PMI guarantee that you are following the PMBOK Guide? Would you only be able to count experience that is in line with PMI standards?

What would you think of a requirement to work a minimum number of hours as a Project Manager, every three years, in order to maintain your credential?
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Jan 03, 2018 6:20 PM
Sante Vergini
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Hi Aaron, how does PMI guarantee that someone is reading a book for 1 hour ;-)

Hmm perhaps working a minimum number of hours as a PM should be a qualification renewal criteria as you suggest, since it is a requirement to enter the PMP certification in the first place.
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Jan 03, 2018 5:51 PM
Replying to Aaron Porter
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Academics and trainers would most likely fall under Creating Content and Giving Presentations.

Regarding work experience, I can see it being worth less - how does PMI guarantee that you are following the PMBOK Guide? Would you only be able to count experience that is in line with PMI standards?

What would you think of a requirement to work a minimum number of hours as a Project Manager, every three years, in order to maintain your credential?
Hi Aaron, how does PMI guarantee that someone is reading a book for 1 hour ;-)

Hmm perhaps working a minimum number of hours as a PM should be a qualification renewal criteria as you suggest, since it is a requirement to enter the PMP certification in the first place.
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1 reply by Anish Abraham
Jan 03, 2018 10:18 PM
Anish Abraham
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That's a good suggestion Sante.
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Jan 03, 2018 6:20 PM
Replying to Sante Vergini
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Hi Aaron, how does PMI guarantee that someone is reading a book for 1 hour ;-)

Hmm perhaps working a minimum number of hours as a PM should be a qualification renewal criteria as you suggest, since it is a requirement to enter the PMP certification in the first place.
That's a good suggestion Sante.
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Agree with Najam, awards of PDU as per different environments of people working. There is always plus and minus in every issue. There should be balance out for award of PDUs. I support Sante your point
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