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SAFE transition
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I am looking to connect with PM's and PMO Leaders whose company has transitioned to SAFE. Please contact me if you have transitioned or are in process of transitioning.

Thank you,
Chris
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Hi Chris - I am currently working with a client that is transitioning to SAFe. Still plenty of unknowns. Of course, b/c it is a client, I'm limited on what I can share. Do you have any specific questions or concerns?
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I was there. As Andrew said, what are you looking for? If you have questions or need some point of view my recommendation is posting them into this forum.
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My questions are around what happened to the PM role in your organization as part of the transition?
Did they become scrum masters, Epic Owners, RTEs, Product Mgt?
What was your process for vetting the best role for them?
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In our question, because SAFE is Scrum based, we took the roles definition from Scrum and SaFe (the first mainly) and put them into a role. Is not a direct mapping because some roles share responsabilities between business analyst and project manager. In our case a quit interesting point is that the same person is performing project management or business analyst roles working at the same time into initiatives that are using different approaches. So, our first work was to create some type of "canonical form" to cover that.
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What Sergio said makes sense that it's not a simple mapping of roles, and there is complex transitions and overlapping responsibilities. I would love to read here Sergio/Andrew's SAFe implementation exposure.
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From my perspective, as a PM, you would best be positioned in either the Program or Portfolio level. A lot depends on the characteristics of the individual, not just that they are currently a project manager, and how to best position yourself as a respected and valuable member of the initiative as a whole with the ability to remain connected both at a strategic and tactical level.

As far as vetting the best role for them. To do that effectively, you will need to have insight into the individual's strengths, value to the organization, and underlying characteristics while also have an understanding of the new role within SAFe and how it fits into the bigger picture. The coach could be of assistance in this area as well.

Hope that helps.
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Sorry to be here again but your post is interesting. Perhaps I will write something obvious for you but here I go. 1-the first thing to do is to understand the whole enteprise architecture to find the gap between today and needed future taking into account the objective to achieve which is transform to SAFe. We transitioned to SAFe one business in particular (as you know the organization could have more than one buisness defined into it) not because we think SAFe is the best framework (we are working with DAD too). Just because it is the framework that best fit after the impact analysis. I wrote about the method we used into a paper that was published by the PMI and the IIBA. 2-If you do not understand what Scrum is and how to use it forget about to implement SAFe. My recommendation is: if you did not use Scrum in practice create a pilot project and use it. Remember that Scrum is a framework not a method so you can fill it up with techniques that best fit for your actual architecture.
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1 reply by Christopher Healy
Jan 31, 2018 10:57 AM
Christopher Healy
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Thanks for the input, good information and all great things to consider.
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Christopher -

If your organization is capable of adopting SAFe 100% and 100% of your projects/products "fit" that framework AND if you won't be dealing with delivery and control partners who can't "fit" with SAFe, then perhaps you can do away with PMs although project management as a set of practices and discipline will continue to be performed, just in a diffused manner.

If you can't answer "yes" to all of the above, you'll likely still need some PMs...

This is one of the reasons I like DAD - it can co-exist with other agile frameworks and/or methodologies and is pragmatic when it comes to roles.

Kiron
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1 reply by Sante Vergini
Jan 31, 2018 4:21 PM
Sante Vergini
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Kiron, I wish DAD was covered in Mike Griffiths book; I guess it means it's not on the exam. Do you happen to know the best source overview for this?
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Jan 31, 2018 4:28 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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Sorry to be here again but your post is interesting. Perhaps I will write something obvious for you but here I go. 1-the first thing to do is to understand the whole enteprise architecture to find the gap between today and needed future taking into account the objective to achieve which is transform to SAFe. We transitioned to SAFe one business in particular (as you know the organization could have more than one buisness defined into it) not because we think SAFe is the best framework (we are working with DAD too). Just because it is the framework that best fit after the impact analysis. I wrote about the method we used into a paper that was published by the PMI and the IIBA. 2-If you do not understand what Scrum is and how to use it forget about to implement SAFe. My recommendation is: if you did not use Scrum in practice create a pilot project and use it. Remember that Scrum is a framework not a method so you can fill it up with techniques that best fit for your actual architecture.
Thanks for the input, good information and all great things to consider.
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Jan 31, 2018 8:20 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Christopher -

If your organization is capable of adopting SAFe 100% and 100% of your projects/products "fit" that framework AND if you won't be dealing with delivery and control partners who can't "fit" with SAFe, then perhaps you can do away with PMs although project management as a set of practices and discipline will continue to be performed, just in a diffused manner.

If you can't answer "yes" to all of the above, you'll likely still need some PMs...

This is one of the reasons I like DAD - it can co-exist with other agile frameworks and/or methodologies and is pragmatic when it comes to roles.

Kiron
Kiron, I wish DAD was covered in Mike Griffiths book; I guess it means it's not on the exam. Do you happen to know the best source overview for this?
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Jan 31, 2018 6:23 PM
Kiron Bondale
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No scaling agile content is on the current ACP exam, but it's possible that since a variety of frameworks are referenced in the new practice guide they could show up as questions in the update.

To learn more about DAD, I would suggest perusing this site: http://www.disciplinedagiledelivery.com/

Ciao!

Kiron
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