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Agile Project Manager

Companies/Employers today want to hire "Agile Project Managers" with a depth of knowledge and experience in technical processes and systems etc.

However companies are not willing to hire Project Managers and teach them how to practice "Agile" project management even though they have the system/technical knowledge and experience required. Obtaining an Agile certification is not enough as they require real world experience.

Some of you may be these Companies/Employers so how can we/employees overcome this when applying for jobs?
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This is a very real phenomenon Amorita. What I have suggested before is it is possible to run your own Agile project outside of work. I did one last year that was a software development project for a small app using overseas resources. It was a decent length of time, inexpensive, and I also used it with Agile/Scrum, so you get the experience also. No one said the "experience" needs to be at the Mega-company level :-)

Many companies want a Project Manager who can immediately enhance their organization's Agile performance from day one, which makes sense. After all, when we hire people to repair things in our house we don't want an inexperienced person we need to train first - we want someone more knowledgeable than ourselves who can start improving things the moment they walk through the door.
Regarding your question, I suggest you get practical Agile experience by working on volunteer projects. You can find a number of virtual projects in need of Project Managers on

Hi! I thought Agile certification requires real working experience on agile managed projects. Anyway, I understand what you mean. I like the idea of volunteering described by Eric. Another option would be to go a steo down in your career to a more junior role where learning is expected.
I'm in a very similar situation now. But when I go through the last projects I did I see that although we did not have the word Agile on our project description we actually did manage it by agile principles. I'm not sure if nowadays are projects really managed strictly waterfall. I don't think so. Agile is a lot about common sence and efficiency. Perhaps you have agile experience although it was not called that way explicitly?

Sante and Eric have already covered the basics. I just wanted to point out one aspect related to the phrase, "Obtaining an Agile certification is not enough as they require real world experience".

To obtain the PMI-ACP certification, real world experience is a necessary prerequisite. We need to bring 2000 hours of Agile project experience to the table to even qualify for the certification.

Karan is correct, but 2000 hours of project experience can be anything, including a software project you develop yourself.

Amorita -

Why not apply agile principles or practices to the projects you are currently managing at work and/or as a volunteer?


Agile something does not exists. That is the first thing to understand. What exists is project management performed on different environments. Let me give you an example taken from my actual work place. We have five different project life cycles defined to do things. The same project manager is assigned to more than one project at the same time where some project is following predictive life cycle model and other is following adaptive (what some people call Agile) life cycle model. While you can argue that we are experienced some king of multiple personality disorder believe me that is not the case. The only thing we have clear is what project management means.

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