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what's the difference between Agile manifesto values and Scrum values
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The format of the Agile Manifesto Values (A over B) tells us that we should apply more of our focus, emphasis and intention to A than to B, whereas the Scrum Values give us direction to the work, behavior and actions within the scrum framework (when we use practises, work within the framework we should as a team re-inforce these values, not diminish or undermine them).
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1 reply by Ravi Kishan Paliwal
Feb 11, 2019 11:41 AM
Ravi Kishan Paliwal
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Thanks Peter
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They are complementary. The former guides us in ensuring we are focusing on the right things, whereas the latter highlight key characteristics of successful teams.

Kiron
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2 replies by Rami Kaibni and Ravi Kishan Paliwal
Feb 11, 2019 9:16 AM
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Thanks Kiron
Feb 11, 2019 10:15 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Very well said Kiron !
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I guess they both are very close, the Agile manifesto is the foundation of Scrum.
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Feb 11, 2019 9:18 AM
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Thanks Jesus Martheyn
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Both are required to be successful. I do support Kiton's idea.
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Feb 11, 2019 11:41 AM
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Thanks Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani
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Manifesto for Agile Software Development do not state values. It state Principles. Scrum stated values. Both are not the same.
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1 reply by Ravi Kishan Paliwal
Feb 11, 2019 9:30 AM
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Hi Serigo, Sorry can you please help to understand more as i found 4 Values Under Manifesto
1. Individuals and interactions over processes and tools.
2. Working software over comprehensive documentation.
3. Customer collaboration over contract negotiation.
4. Responding to change over following a plan.

Under Scrum
Openness, Respect, Courage, Focus, Commitment.
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Feb 11, 2019 7:35 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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They are complementary. The former guides us in ensuring we are focusing on the right things, whereas the latter highlight key characteristics of successful teams.

Kiron
Thanks Kiron
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Feb 11, 2019 7:45 AM
Replying to Jesus Martheyn Berbesi
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I guess they both are very close, the Agile manifesto is the foundation of Scrum.
Thanks Jesus Martheyn
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Feb 11, 2019 8:28 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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Manifesto for Agile Software Development do not state values. It state Principles. Scrum stated values. Both are not the same.
Hi Serigo, Sorry can you please help to understand more as i found 4 Values Under Manifesto
1. Individuals and interactions over processes and tools.
2. Working software over comprehensive documentation.
3. Customer collaboration over contract negotiation.
4. Responding to change over following a plan.

Under Scrum
Openness, Respect, Courage, Focus, Commitment.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Feb 11, 2019 9:53 AM
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Those are not values. The manifesto do not say that. The manifesto stated:
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We are uncovering better ways of developing
software by doing it and helping others do it.
Through this work we have come to value
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and at the end of the list you put above:
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That is, while there is value in the items on
the right, we value the items on the left more.
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Some people thing that those are values but it is a common misunderstanding. And that is the first step to fail when people try to use Agile based on the Manifesto
Instead, what Scrum stated yes are values.
Just to understand that please go to the definition of the term "value".
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Feb 11, 2019 9:30 AM
Replying to Ravi Kishan Paliwal
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Hi Serigo, Sorry can you please help to understand more as i found 4 Values Under Manifesto
1. Individuals and interactions over processes and tools.
2. Working software over comprehensive documentation.
3. Customer collaboration over contract negotiation.
4. Responding to change over following a plan.

Under Scrum
Openness, Respect, Courage, Focus, Commitment.
Those are not values. The manifesto do not say that. The manifesto stated:
"
We are uncovering better ways of developing
software by doing it and helping others do it.
Through this work we have come to value
"
and at the end of the list you put above:
"
That is, while there is value in the items on
the right, we value the items on the left more.
"
Some people thing that those are values but it is a common misunderstanding. And that is the first step to fail when people try to use Agile based on the Manifesto
Instead, what Scrum stated yes are values.
Just to understand that please go to the definition of the term "value".
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1 reply by Ravi Kishan Paliwal
Feb 11, 2019 11:44 AM
Ravi Kishan Paliwal
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Thanks Sergio, Let me crack more to understand.
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Feb 11, 2019 7:35 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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They are complementary. The former guides us in ensuring we are focusing on the right things, whereas the latter highlight key characteristics of successful teams.

Kiron
Very well said Kiron !
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