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Employer Adopting SAFe 4.0 with Overlapping Duties

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George Monnat Technical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North America Austin, Tx, United States
Hi all,

My current employer (been here 1.5 months) is beginning to transition to SAFe 4.0. It's a decent-sized office with about 80 software developers in a matrix environment where the team leads operate as functional managers for their integrated teams, and my role is basically as PM.

I don't believe anyone has been to a SAFe class, yet. I scheduled myself for the POPM class three weeks from now. The differences I see are that our team leads are doing the SAFe roles for both Product Owner (PO) and SM. My position is playing the SAFe roles of both Product Manager (PM) and RTE. Has anyone experienced this, and was it successful?
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
We started the process to implement SAFe two years ago and we are still doing that into application/infrastructure layers. I am in charge of that.We used DaD too. In the middle of all this stuff we are migrating to 4.0. Let me say I hate SAFe because is a really mess with no value delivery mainly thinking about Agile philosophy. But I have to bring the bread to my table so here I am. What let me calm is that I have said why do not use it. OK, after making some kind of therapy with the group here my comment. While I do not have all the information about your current situation I will say that what you are trying to do is to map non-agile environments into a "agile" ones. I am saying that with my understanding about you have written. So, take a time to really understand all related to SAFe but mainly to understand all related to Scrum. The best thing you can do if you want to survive yourself and your team is forget about all you know up to date where it does mean forget about project management, project managers, projects, etc, etc. Put your mind in blank and start from scratch. While I know is a human being condition to relate all we know to date to understand what we must learn for tomorrow do not do that.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
I forgot to mentioned in my last comment we are working with SAFe and DEVOPS.
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George Monnat Technical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North America Austin, Tx, United States
Thanks for the advice Sergio.

So any hourly SAFe coaches, preferably in the Central or Eastern time zones, out there?
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
May 01, 2018 8:16 AM
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Let me say: you do not need a SAFe coach. That´s will not solve your problem. What you need is somebody that helps your organization to understand that SAFe must be a solution to a business problem. If not then you are buying a "silver bullet". Just in case you said me "nothing to do, we will run SAFe" then my recommendation is trying to understand what SAFe really is first.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
May 01, 2018 8:08 AM
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Thanks for the advice Sergio.

So any hourly SAFe coaches, preferably in the Central or Eastern time zones, out there?
Let me say: you do not need a SAFe coach. That´s will not solve your problem. What you need is somebody that helps your organization to understand that SAFe must be a solution to a business problem. If not then you are buying a "silver bullet". Just in case you said me "nothing to do, we will run SAFe" then my recommendation is trying to understand what SAFe really is first.
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George Monnat Technical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North America Austin, Tx, United States
I need someone with SAFe credibility to explain to upper management that we shouldn't be combining 2-4+ roles into one person by getting them to understand the work load of each role.
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May 01, 2018 8:26 AM
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My point is:why you should not be combining 2-4 roles into one person? If you ask me I will say "yes, why not" because I experienced this type of situations. But my answer is so valid than your concern if you do not make an impact analysis first. You are trying to convince your upper manager about something you do not have information for that. Just trying to give an example here comes a link to the process we use each time we will introduce something into my actual work place. Just to comment, I belongs to "Process, Innovation and Transformation" Division of the PMO so each thing that is related to that is my responsability https://www.projectmanagement.com/blog-pos...-right-solution
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
May 01, 2018 8:20 AM
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I need someone with SAFe credibility to explain to upper management that we shouldn't be combining 2-4+ roles into one person by getting them to understand the work load of each role.
My point is:why you should not be combining 2-4 roles into one person? If you ask me I will say "yes, why not" because I experienced this type of situations. But my answer is so valid than your concern if you do not make an impact analysis first. You are trying to convince your upper manager about something you do not have information for that. Just trying to give an example here comes a link to the process we use each time we will introduce something into my actual work place. Just to comment, I belongs to "Process, Innovation and Transformation" Division of the PMO so each thing that is related to that is my responsability https://www.projectmanagement.com/blog-pos...-right-solution
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George Monnat Technical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North America Austin, Tx, United States
Apr 30, 2018 6:51 PM
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I certainly do not object, though, I'd highly recommend navigating through the Scaled Agile Framework site - https://www.scaledagileframework.com/

Question - Why SAFe? What is the current approach?

Keep us posted.
Andrew, upper management looked for a framework which allowed for us to continue developing software in an agile environment within the greater waterfall program driven by the customer. I've been here less than two months, but apparently the work being done according to agile methodology while the customer only understands waterfall has caused problems. I don't know any reasons beyond those. Also, the company grew from 2-3 simultaneous projects/programs a few years ago to more than 2 dozen simultaneous projects/programs now with rapid hiring and a lot of scrambling and growing pains.
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Mark Amos Scotland, United Kingdom
Looking at this may be useful. There are a few resources at this link with Scrum alliance that may help answer such questions.

https://www.scrumalliance.org/learn-about-...hip-at-a-distan
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May 16, 2018 3:17 PM
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Thank you, Mark.
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George Monnat Technical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North America Austin, Tx, United States
May 11, 2018 3:42 AM
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Looking at this may be useful. There are a few resources at this link with Scrum alliance that may help answer such questions.

https://www.scrumalliance.org/learn-about-...hip-at-a-distan
Thank you, Mark.
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