Elizeu AntonioManager for Network Operations| MSTelcomLuanda, Angola
"Some agile practiotioners think the role of project manager is not needed [in an agile project]. Many project managers are accustomed to being at the center of coordination for the project [...]." (PMI, 2017, p. 37-38). Make your comment or give your experience about the project manager role in an agile environment. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
First of all, some Agile based methods like DSDM has the project manager role explicit defined into it. Second, I have the opportunity to take a one week workshop with Sutherland regarding his new word named "The Art Of Doing Things Half Of Time" which is Scrum based and he talk in theory and practice how project management is performed into Scrum. But you are talking about environments and Agile is nothing to be with methods or process. Agile is a practice or way of thinking and behave so the important thing is the environment. key is to understand what a project manager really is. With that on mind you can perform the role into any type of approach you take. For example, in my actual work place, we have five life cycles defined based on predictive and adaptive models plus we use Scrum and DSDM. The same person is assigned at the same time to perform project/program management activities inside initiatives that running using different approaches.
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May 06, 2018 12:14 PM
Elizeu Antonio
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Sergio, thanks for your comment.
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Elizeu AntonioManager for Network Operations| MSTelcomLuanda, Angola
May 06, 2018 11:08 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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First of all, some Agile based methods like DSDM has the project manager role explicit defined into it. Second, I have the opportunity to take a one week workshop with Sutherland regarding his new word named "The Art Of Doing Things Half Of Time" which is Scrum based and he talk in theory and practice how project management is performed into Scrum. But you are talking about environments and Agile is nothing to be with methods or process. Agile is a practice or way of thinking and behave so the important thing is the environment. key is to understand what a project manager really is. With that on mind you can perform the role into any type of approach you take. For example, in my actual work place, we have five life cycles defined based on predictive and adaptive models plus we use Scrum and DSDM. The same person is assigned at the same time to perform project/program management activities inside initiatives that running using different approaches.
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The Scrum Master/Agile Lead/Coach's focus is "within" (i.e. the pod or pods they are supporting). The PM's role in a project following an agile or adaptive approach with qualified SMs in place is more on "without" (e.g. stakeholder engagement, financial management, integration management, overall integrated schedule management).
On a small, low complexity project, a PM and SM role can be performed by the same individual but this won't work as complexity and scale increases.
Operative planning is delegated to the development team. The role of the PM (especially in bigger complex projects) switches to the "without" as highligted by Kiron. In such envrionment the PM role still makes sense with focus on strategic planning level and servant leadership for the team.
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May 10, 2018 2:23 PM
Elizeu Antonio
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Peter, thanks for your comment.
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Elizeu AntonioManager for Network Operations| MSTelcomLuanda, Angola
May 06, 2018 3:00 PM
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I fully agree with Sergio’s feedback.
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Elizeu AntonioManager for Network Operations| MSTelcomLuanda, Angola
May 06, 2018 6:44 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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I don't see the issue with project managers in an Agile environment. Managing a project is not synonymous with managing the development team.
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Elizeu AntonioManager for Network Operations| MSTelcomLuanda, Angola
May 06, 2018 7:03 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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The Scrum Master/Agile Lead/Coach's focus is "within" (i.e. the pod or pods they are supporting). The PM's role in a project following an agile or adaptive approach with qualified SMs in place is more on "without" (e.g. stakeholder engagement, financial management, integration management, overall integrated schedule management).
On a small, low complexity project, a PM and SM role can be performed by the same individual but this won't work as complexity and scale increases.
Kiron
Good point! Thanks, Kiron. Saving Changes...
Elizeu AntonioManager for Network Operations| MSTelcomLuanda, Angola
May 07, 2018 8:40 AM
Replying to Peter Ambrosy
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Operative planning is delegated to the development team. The role of the PM (especially in bigger complex projects) switches to the "without" as highligted by Kiron. In such envrionment the PM role still makes sense with focus on strategic planning level and servant leadership for the team.
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