Been curious about this and decided to throw out the question here...hopefully some of you would know the answer. Do you think a diploma in project management is repetitive of education attained for CAPM certification?
See below an example of course outline for Diploma in PM:
Manage project scope
Manage project time
Manage project quality
Manage project cost
Manage project human resources
Manage project information and communication
Manage project risk
Manage project integration
Build and sustain an innovative work environment
Facilitate Continuous Improvement
Develop workplace policy and procedures for sustainability
Lead and manage team effectiveness
If so, then what would you recommend in addition to CAPM for someone not directly involved in project work, wanting to move career to project management? Saving Changes...
Diploma might not be worth it if it doesn't give you the credits needed to qualify for the CAPM exam.
Project coordinator or similar would be related to PM work at entry level.
Take the CAPM, it's worth more than a "diploma".
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1 reply by Lavaughn Selvon
May 07, 2018 3:42 PM
Lavaughn Selvon
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Hi Michael Brian. Thanks for responding. The question was if already have CAPM, if diploma is good next move or repetitive in content compared to CAPM education. Or what further study is recommended if not diploma?
Diploma might not be worth it if it doesn't give you the credits needed to qualify for the CAPM exam.
Project coordinator or similar would be related to PM work at entry level.
Take the CAPM, it's worth more than a "diploma".
Hi Michael Brian. Thanks for responding. The question was if already have CAPM, if diploma is good next move or repetitive in content compared to CAPM education. Or what further study is recommended if not diploma?
Hi Michael Brian. Thanks for responding. The question was if already have CAPM, if diploma is good next move or repetitive in content compared to CAPM education. Or what further study is recommended if not diploma?
PMP would be your ideal move.
CAPM + experience = PMP.
The diploma would be a waste I would think. Saving Changes...
If it's to get a job the CAPM is more valuable. But people get educated for many reasons: career, interest, goal. When you say diploma, is that a straight diploma (where you don't need a bachelor's degree) or post graduate diploma (where you usually need one)? If it's the former, than the CAPM is probably better.
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2 replies by Kevin Drake and Lavaughn Selvon
May 07, 2018 4:20 PM
Lavaughn Selvon
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I'm getting the idea that since I have CAPM, no sense to do diploma. I want to make myself more inviting to the PM world by pursuing further studies that will at least get me at entry level.
May 07, 2018 4:53 PM
Kevin Drake
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I really agree with Sante on that but also look to your country do they recognise and regard diploma .. It could vary in the same country between states. I went through the Diploma material here in Western Australia which is highly regarded in Western Australia job market... All what I can say that I wasted my time looking at it, and if I am recruiting a pm or project team, it will not be my choice at all.
It depends on the market you are operating in.
If it's to get a job the CAPM is more valuable. But people get educated for many reasons: career, interest, goal. When you say diploma, is that a straight diploma (where you don't need a bachelor's degree) or post graduate diploma (where you usually need one)? If it's the former, than the CAPM is probably better.
I'm getting the idea that since I have CAPM, no sense to do diploma. I want to make myself more inviting to the PM world by pursuing further studies that will at least get me at entry level.
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1 reply by Michael Brian
May 07, 2018 4:37 PM
Michael Brian
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CAPM will get you entry level. I've actually seen some entry level positions request it (but not require it) in job postings.
Project coordinator or assistant PM postings will also be entry level.
Since you have the CAPM, I would focus on finding that entry level position and getting the experience. Once you hit those 4500 hrs, you should consider the PMP exam.
As I've recently started my journey, I've realized the the PM knowledge has more to do with guidance and that PM work relies heavily on applying that knowledge. Many job postings I see only request 1 year experience while some don't mention it at all.
Search postings and go through the company requirements and job description. Stay away from companies that list for PM coordinator, but the job tasks match up to more administrative. I've noticed some like that which is not ideal in gaining experience.
You want to find work directly in connection to working with a PM.
Book knowledge in this field especially means nothing without being able to apply it. Focus on the experience, than PMP certification. Leave the diploma stuff alone.
I'm getting the idea that since I have CAPM, no sense to do diploma. I want to make myself more inviting to the PM world by pursuing further studies that will at least get me at entry level.
CAPM will get you entry level. I've actually seen some entry level positions request it (but not require it) in job postings.
Project coordinator or assistant PM postings will also be entry level.
Since you have the CAPM, I would focus on finding that entry level position and getting the experience. Once you hit those 4500 hrs, you should consider the PMP exam.
As I've recently started my journey, I've realized the the PM knowledge has more to do with guidance and that PM work relies heavily on applying that knowledge. Many job postings I see only request 1 year experience while some don't mention it at all.
Search postings and go through the company requirements and job description. Stay away from companies that list for PM coordinator, but the job tasks match up to more administrative. I've noticed some like that which is not ideal in gaining experience.
You want to find work directly in connection to working with a PM.
Book knowledge in this field especially means nothing without being able to apply it. Focus on the experience, than PMP certification. Leave the diploma stuff alone. Saving Changes...
If it's to get a job the CAPM is more valuable. But people get educated for many reasons: career, interest, goal. When you say diploma, is that a straight diploma (where you don't need a bachelor's degree) or post graduate diploma (where you usually need one)? If it's the former, than the CAPM is probably better.
I really agree with Sante on that but also look to your country do they recognise and regard diploma .. It could vary in the same country between states. I went through the Diploma material here in Western Australia which is highly regarded in Western Australia job market... All what I can say that I wasted my time looking at it, and if I am recruiting a pm or project team, it will not be my choice at all.
It depends on the market you are operating in.
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1 reply by Lavaughn Selvon
May 07, 2018 7:32 PM
Lavaughn Selvon
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I'm watching at ads in my country and they want minimal diploma for PM entry level and state certification an asset. In my current interactions with project, I'm definitely a coordinator. So I need to add something that says... put her on a small project or at least to work with a project leader would be fine. If I could only make the start somewhere on that direction.
A prep course (CAPM or PMP) focuses on teaching you what's needed to pass the exam and not the application of project management practices via group exercises or case studies. I would expect the diploma would cover the latter, so unless you are confident in being able to apply the theory you learned when studying for the CAPM or have already taken some non-certification oriented PM courses, you might benefit from the diploma.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Diploma has more in depth concentration on project management processes than CAPM. Both are good and in both cases you need experience to advance in the PM Field.
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1 reply by Lavaughn Selvon
May 07, 2018 7:38 PM
Lavaughn Selvon
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Rami, by chance you meant to say that you 'don't' need project experience for both? Cause I qualified for CAPM based on education. Also I'm not seeing experience required for diplomas. That's actually why I'm thinking to start there.
Actually the reason I pursued CAPM is that I do interact with projects but it's not doing projects. So it's interaction with CEPs for capital projects and portfolio reporting, user admin in various project software tools. CAPM was to get full picture of what I'm dealing with, which has indeed helped significantly in my interaction with the project portfolio.
I really agree with Sante on that but also look to your country do they recognise and regard diploma .. It could vary in the same country between states. I went through the Diploma material here in Western Australia which is highly regarded in Western Australia job market... All what I can say that I wasted my time looking at it, and if I am recruiting a pm or project team, it will not be my choice at all.
It depends on the market you are operating in.
I'm watching at ads in my country and they want minimal diploma for PM entry level and state certification an asset. In my current interactions with project, I'm definitely a coordinator. So I need to add something that says... put her on a small project or at least to work with a project leader would be fine. If I could only make the start somewhere on that direction. Saving Changes...
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