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Joshua Render Product Owner| Cognizant Harrisville, Ny, United States
I am wondering if the group has encountered Agile projects not related to software or IT. What area were they in and how did they work out? I have seen a few myself, usually related to new product launches.

Additionally, I am wondering if the group has encountered Agile being used in non-project work. Kanban seems well suited for this and I have seen it used for those purposes, I am wondering if others have seen it or other variations of Agile used in non-project work. (This part may be off topic for this forum)
It seems more companies are trying to adopt Agile. Are they doing it - Just for projects? Just for software projects? More general and day to day use outside of projects?

I should really create a poll question for this too...
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Joshua Render Product Owner| Cognizant Harrisville, Ny, United States
Jun 10, 2018 5:07 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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Agile is not a method or process, Agile is not related to software or IT, Agile did not start with the Manifesto. Agile is a practice that was formally born in 1990 as an alternative to Lean. So, you can apply Agile in everything if and only if you make an impact analysis first and you understand your whole enteprise architecture. This activity is not new. Belongs to business analysis field from the very begining. Unfortunatelly because Agile becomes a buzzword then most of the people do not understand what Agile is. For example, your list in the answer to Brian Cohn has not sense (generally speaking) about Agile. Things like "embrace changes" are not understanding at all. But, go to the basement. Relating to original post perhaps this will help:
https://hbr.org/1986/01/the-new-new-product-development-game
https://hbr.org/2016/04/the-secret-history-of-agile-innovation
https://www.scruminc.com/wp-content/upload...-with-Agile.pdf
https://steveblank.com/2016/11/10/how-the-...vation-culture/
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/when-agile-...e-title-publish
"Perfectly Positioned", http://www.pmnetwork-digital.com/pmnetwork/april_2016?pg=73#pg73
I realize Agile itself is not a method or a process and that it originated well before the manifesto. I don't generally regard the manifesto as important from an Agile creation perspective - but I like much of the definitions about what Agile (general usage) should be, so I stand by my list but recognize that it is not all-inclusive. The Agile manifesto also focused on software development and my question was focused on quite the opposite.

Agile was born precisely because complex waterfall projects spanned years and had to adhere to decisions made years before with no allowable room for change. Embrace change belongs in that list.
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Joshua Render Product Owner| Cognizant Harrisville, Ny, United States
Jun 08, 2018 5:43 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Joshua,

This subject was raised a lot and we are very interested in the feedback just ike you are but unfortnately, there wasn't much feedback probabably because Agile is still new to industries other than software.

Check this link:

https://www.projectmanagement.com/discussi...ology-projects-
Very good. I hope in the future to see more information on this and more companies try it.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Jun 09, 2018 11:26 PM
Replying to Joshua Render
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My first experience with kanban was in manufacturing. The Agile process has evolved a little to become something more separate and distinct, leading to it becoming a framework in its own right rather than a process of lean. Agile itself takes within it the lean mindset of working to continuously improve and try to eliminate waste - and that is probably I think its biggest value to non-project work.

So I guess maybe the question isn't can or where should Agile be used, but how do you think one could further develop Lean to be more useful outside of manufacturing?
Joshua -

Lean is evolving beyond manufacturing - if you think of the old 6 M's model which evolved into the 6 P's model to address services, or the heavy use of lean in healthcare, telcos and other human oriented services work there is definite growth.

However, just as with agile, adaptation is needed.

For example, when looking at a manufacturing process which is predominantly driven by machines, you can strive for a very high (80+%) process efficiency level. When we deal with a predominantly human driven process, it's almost impossible to get over 50% process efficiency just based on the unpredictability and variation of human beings.

Kiron
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Jun 11, 2018 7:38 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Damn, humans are so unreliable ;-)
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Jun 11, 2018 5:20 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Joshua -

Lean is evolving beyond manufacturing - if you think of the old 6 M's model which evolved into the 6 P's model to address services, or the heavy use of lean in healthcare, telcos and other human oriented services work there is definite growth.

However, just as with agile, adaptation is needed.

For example, when looking at a manufacturing process which is predominantly driven by machines, you can strive for a very high (80+%) process efficiency level. When we deal with a predominantly human driven process, it's almost impossible to get over 50% process efficiency just based on the unpredictability and variation of human beings.

Kiron
Damn, humans are so unreliable ;-)
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1 reply by Joshua Render
Jun 11, 2018 7:40 PM
Joshua Render
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bring on the robot revolution
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Joshua Render Product Owner| Cognizant Harrisville, Ny, United States
Jun 11, 2018 7:38 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Damn, humans are so unreliable ;-)
bring on the robot revolution
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