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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Is this a feature you would like to see? I know I would.
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Mayte Mata Sivera PMO Leader | Speaker | Author Ut, United States
I prefer thumbs up/down, and the number of each. I prefer don't see who did it, however I prefer that the rating will not give a badge, because is encouraging to do it before fully read the blog or article.

The stars system is very subjective, for example in the last conference I received three 1 star qualification (that decrease a lot my conference qualification) one of the attendees that rate me with 1 star at least added a comment ("The room was full and I can't go into" - This person or didnt' unterstand the rules about how to rate the speakers or wantend to "punish me" for something that was outside of my role.

The others that voted with 1 star no comments added...what did it mean? How I can improve?

Maybe now you are thinking...was only 3 bad qualifications, but from 40 attendees only 12 gave feedback, then the impact was huge in my overall qualification.

Same happen with the blog entries in this forum, what does it mean 1 star vs 2...and 4 vs 5, Am I having grammar issues? Is the topic not interested for you? Or did you only stop by blog to win another badge?


I highly appreciate feedback in conference, blog entries...and at least my experience with "stars" don't give me the info that I'm looking for. I took more attention to the comments, that generally are more helpful.
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Jul 18, 2018 6:35 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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You have a point Mayte about the phantom vote spammer, voting on anything and everything. Maybe they are twins in an alternate universe.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Jul 18, 2018 7:17 AM
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True Kiron, there is a risk of bias. But bias enters into nearly all systems of voting, just look at politics. With blogs, I've seen many examples of say 5 people voting a 4 and 5 (assumed by the 4.x rating) only to see it dive to 3.x with a phantom 2 rating (using simply math). Worse still is the phantom vote stalker, who posts say a 2 before anyone else comments, and I have witnessed hesitation in comments kicking off probably because the first comment poster doesn't want to see that it was their post that was so lowly voted. In those cases they may (including me) have shown bias by rating a blog post a 5 when actually a 4 would have been voted, just to mitigate the perceived trolling of that phantom voter of 2. A few times when I have been the first to comment, I have seen a 2 vote. Then I comment and I almost always vote a 4. But if I did, it would end up a 3, and only my comment would appear, so it would make the author think I voted a 3. That is even worse than bias, it is false representation. Even worse is the other way around, when I'm the first to comment and vote a 4, only to see the vote some time later become a 3, obviously because someone voted a 2. And when I see this happening, the phantom voter (could be plural) never comments. I have even changed my vote up to cater for this as you may have noticed in the past. I think all of this would virtually disappear if the votes were unmasked, or at the very least have the down/up vote, so that the worst damage a phantom can do is 1 down vote, not change the entire average vote to make it look like the post was a lot worse than it actually was. To your point, yes some people may not vote, but I feel that those who do, would really want to vote, and give their true vote, which gives a lot more credibility to the total average vote for that post.
I think a baby step towards this is to show everyone who voted (the way LinkedIn shows who Liked your updates) but not show how they voted.

Then, the community product owner could use the feedback on that change to decide whether to take the next step...

Kiron
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2 replies by Mayte Mata Sivera and Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Jul 18, 2018 5:40 PM
Mayte Mata Sivera
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That's a good idea Kiron!
Jul 18, 2018 6:36 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Thanks Kiron, yes that's one option.
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Mayte Mata Sivera PMO Leader | Speaker | Author Ut, United States
Jul 18, 2018 4:25 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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I think a baby step towards this is to show everyone who voted (the way LinkedIn shows who Liked your updates) but not show how they voted.

Then, the community product owner could use the feedback on that change to decide whether to take the next step...

Kiron
That's a good idea Kiron!
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Kevin Drake Perth, Western Australia, Australia
I am in ... It will be nice to have
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Jul 18, 2018 9:57 AM
Replying to Girija Ramakrishnan
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Wonderful analysis, Sante. I've voted for your response now. Being transparent :-)
Thanks Girija.
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Jul 18, 2018 2:10 PM
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We are talking about the rates in the blogs. :)
Yes Mayte, mainly the blogs. People usually vote in either blogs or articles. Articles are not so much of an issue, because there are so many more viewers, thus votes, that the phantom voter cannot change the total average vote in the way they can with blog posts which receive far fewer views and thus votes.
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Jul 18, 2018 2:40 PM
Replying to Mayte Mata Sivera
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I prefer thumbs up/down, and the number of each. I prefer don't see who did it, however I prefer that the rating will not give a badge, because is encouraging to do it before fully read the blog or article.

The stars system is very subjective, for example in the last conference I received three 1 star qualification (that decrease a lot my conference qualification) one of the attendees that rate me with 1 star at least added a comment ("The room was full and I can't go into" - This person or didnt' unterstand the rules about how to rate the speakers or wantend to "punish me" for something that was outside of my role.

The others that voted with 1 star no comments added...what did it mean? How I can improve?

Maybe now you are thinking...was only 3 bad qualifications, but from 40 attendees only 12 gave feedback, then the impact was huge in my overall qualification.

Same happen with the blog entries in this forum, what does it mean 1 star vs 2...and 4 vs 5, Am I having grammar issues? Is the topic not interested for you? Or did you only stop by blog to win another badge?


I highly appreciate feedback in conference, blog entries...and at least my experience with "stars" don't give me the info that I'm looking for. I took more attention to the comments, that generally are more helpful.
You have a point Mayte about the phantom vote spammer, voting on anything and everything. Maybe they are twins in an alternate universe.
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Jul 18, 2018 4:25 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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I think a baby step towards this is to show everyone who voted (the way LinkedIn shows who Liked your updates) but not show how they voted.

Then, the community product owner could use the feedback on that change to decide whether to take the next step...

Kiron
Thanks Kiron, yes that's one option.
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Anish Abraham Privacy Program Manager| University of Washington Auburn, Wa, United States
That would be a cool feature, Sante.
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Amit Sharma Project Manager| IT Major Delhi, Delhi, India
What will you do with that info (besides, in the name of transparency)? The end justifies the means! But a good point Sante!
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