Dinah YoungProject Manager / Software Asset Manager| Prince William CountySpringfield, Va, United States
The other day one of my coworkers told me that I was no nonsense and direct. I realized that she was not saying it as a compliment. Apparently, that can be intimidating to people.
I took it as a compliment because that is what I am. I am nice about it, but time is money and I don't like wasting time beating around the bush. I am here to do a job, let's get it done. Saving Changes...
Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
I've been told my many that I'm like a robot. I appreciate this because sometimes I need to be focused and emotionless to cut through the chaff to get things done. Saving Changes...
Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
Aug 07, 2018 12:46 PM
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If he came in, learned our processes and then suggested changes, we would listen. That is not how it happened. And I do not know what Standard he is following. It is not PMI for sure. He tried to tell me that the Proj Mgt Plan should not have details in it. It is a proposal. I responded that it is called a plan and therefore is part of the planning stage.
He said a project management plan *shouldn't* have details in it?? I would have promptly tossed him out the door for that. Having a different project management style is one thing, but having no clue about the most elementary project management concepts is intolerable.
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1 reply by Dinah Young
Aug 08, 2018 9:41 AM
Dinah Young
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I know. It took me a second to pick my jaw up off of the floor.
This guy is here for now. So after some careful thought over the weekend, I decided that I will need to step up and do what management did not do for him when he arrived. I plan to meet with him and explain what he needs to do to survive here and be successful. Number one is going to be to listen to understand, not to listen to comment. Number two is to learn the existing processes and follow them for awhile before discussing changes. Then to focus on gathering the information needed for the documents and to work with other people on your team. He needs to understand that he was brought in to ease the burden on existing managers and so far he has been doing the opposite.
If he responds well to our meeting, he may be re-trainable. If not, then it is only a matter of time until he is out the door.
It depends on the context & the person from whom I am getting a positive/negative comment. I do a little introspection and take it either as a compliment or may be something to be improved. Saving Changes...
Tamer Zeyad SadiqAssistant Cost Manager| Turner & TownsendRiyadh, Ar Riyad, Saudi Arabia
I think follow an informal written or verbal with an ethical habits!!! Saving Changes...
Dinah YoungProject Manager / Software Asset Manager| Prince William CountySpringfield, Va, United States
Aug 07, 2018 8:27 PM
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He said a project management plan *shouldn't* have details in it?? I would have promptly tossed him out the door for that. Having a different project management style is one thing, but having no clue about the most elementary project management concepts is intolerable.
I know. It took me a second to pick my jaw up off of the floor.
This guy is here for now. So after some careful thought over the weekend, I decided that I will need to step up and do what management did not do for him when he arrived. I plan to meet with him and explain what he needs to do to survive here and be successful. Number one is going to be to listen to understand, not to listen to comment. Number two is to learn the existing processes and follow them for awhile before discussing changes. Then to focus on gathering the information needed for the documents and to work with other people on your team. He needs to understand that he was brought in to ease the burden on existing managers and so far he has been doing the opposite.
If he responds well to our meeting, he may be re-trainable. If not, then it is only a matter of time until he is out the door.
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1 reply by Joshua Render
Aug 08, 2018 9:46 AM
Joshua Render
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You're scary but in a good way :)
That is a compliment.
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Joshua RenderProduct Owner| CognizantHarrisville, Ny, United States
Aug 08, 2018 9:41 AM
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I know. It took me a second to pick my jaw up off of the floor.
This guy is here for now. So after some careful thought over the weekend, I decided that I will need to step up and do what management did not do for him when he arrived. I plan to meet with him and explain what he needs to do to survive here and be successful. Number one is going to be to listen to understand, not to listen to comment. Number two is to learn the existing processes and follow them for awhile before discussing changes. Then to focus on gathering the information needed for the documents and to work with other people on your team. He needs to understand that he was brought in to ease the burden on existing managers and so far he has been doing the opposite.
If he responds well to our meeting, he may be re-trainable. If not, then it is only a matter of time until he is out the door.
You're scary but in a good way :)
That is a compliment.
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1 reply by Dinah Young
Aug 08, 2018 9:48 AM
Dinah Young
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Thank you
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Dinah YoungProject Manager / Software Asset Manager| Prince William CountySpringfield, Va, United States
Aug 08, 2018 9:46 AM
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You're scary but in a good way :)
That is a compliment.
Thank you Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
The problem is: people is needed to get the job done and we need to work with people. The day when we do not need to people to do our job then we will be happy.....(ironic, jejeje). "They treat you in the same way that you introduce yourself. If you look bad you will mistrated. If you look good you will be hired". Saving Changes...
Dinah YoungProject Manager / Software Asset Manager| Prince William CountySpringfield, Va, United States
I was just thinking that if people have a problem with me being truthful, no nonsense (but polite), keeping meetings from going off tangent, and asking tem to tell me when they are going to complete their tasks, is the problem really me? Or maybe it is it them?
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1 reply by Farouq Zaabab
Aug 09, 2018 4:05 PM
Farouq Zaabab
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Dinah-
Nothing wrong with you, it is definitely them in this case. So keep on doing a great job and hold them up to higher standards :)
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Farouq ZaababResearcher, Coach, Trainer, Consultant| FreelancerSohar, Oman
Aug 09, 2018 3:03 PM
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I was just thinking that if people have a problem with me being truthful, no nonsense (but polite), keeping meetings from going off tangent, and asking tem to tell me when they are going to complete their tasks, is the problem really me? Or maybe it is it them?
Dinah-
Nothing wrong with you, it is definitely them in this case. So keep on doing a great job and hold them up to higher standards :)
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1 reply by Dinah Young
Aug 09, 2018 4:16 PM
Dinah Young
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Thank you. I am a bit (OK a lot) annoyed (totally pissed off) today. I will get over it. I am just trying to hold my tongue at work until I can speak rationally. I need to vent to someone and my friends here on Projectmanagement.com are the lucky recipients. :)
