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Can we use scrum approach without burndown chart?

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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Burn-down chart can be seen much complicated by many team members, is there a way to avoid it?
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Yes, by using a burnup chart ;-)

There are other methods for tracking completed work, but what system do you prefer?
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1 reply by Riyadh Salih
Sep 16, 2018 9:12 PM
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Sante, I am not sure I am new at Scrum, and I might postponed further search for now.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Scrum is a framework, You will not see inside the framework "the how". You will not find a line inside the Scrum defintion (Scrum guide) about to use user stories, story point, etc, etc. That is the power of the framework: organizations can fill it up with tools and techniques best fit for their current situation. So, you can do that. For example, in my case, we are using MS Project and a project schedule with Scrum. If you ask me, you have to avoid that. In fact, we are using both tools simultaneously. But I can not convince the audit group that it has no sense. Returning to the point, I think that is somthing missing because burn down chart (in my personal opinion and experience) are simple to understand mainly for people that not belongs to IT or software.
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1 reply by Riyadh Salih
Sep 16, 2018 9:13 PM
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Sergio, thank you for nice explanation I have lots on the table right now so I guess I can delay Scrum for the time being.
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Drew Craig Sr. Agile & Product Coach| Vanguard Philadelphia, Pa, United States
You don't have too, but tbh, it is not complicated. Additionally, sure, it's a different chart type, but allow time to adjust.
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1 reply by Riyadh Salih
Sep 16, 2018 9:15 PM
Riyadh Salih
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Andrew, Yeah I never use it but heard from others telling it is complicated, thanks for your encouraging feedback
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Joshua Render Product Owner| Cognizant Harrisville, Ny, United States
Yes. You can use whatever you want. Scrum doesn't require the use of specific tools. There may be suggestions as to what you can use, but it is not required. I created an iterative Gantt chart in Excel that I finally tried on a project. From a reporting perspective, it was fairly easy to understand.
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Jesus Martheyn Project Manager SR Lvl 2| Globant Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia
You don't have to, but it is a nice tool. Anyway, you can use the tool that you prefer for tracking your project progress.
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1 reply by Riyadh Salih
Sep 16, 2018 9:16 PM
Riyadh Salih
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Berbesi, thanks for your feedback can you refer a template for the tool.
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
It's a nice little tool to see the work gradually being reduced.
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1 reply by Riyadh Salih
Sep 16, 2018 9:17 PM
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Sante, tbh with you I haven't used it I might in future.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Riyadh -

The only thing less complicated than a burn-down chart (story points or effort hours) to track progress within a sprint would be to just use the Scrum board as a basis for assessing where we are at. However, if we are looking at a release or project spanning multiple sprints, some sort of forecast against the overall backlog is needed and a burnup or burndown chart are good ways to do this...

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1 reply by Riyadh Salih
Sep 16, 2018 9:19 PM
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Kiron, this looks like complete different framework which needs more devotion and concentration I will stick with my plan for now and might consider it later after other achievements. thanks for your comment
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 16, 2018 6:20 AM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Yes, by using a burnup chart ;-)

There are other methods for tracking completed work, but what system do you prefer?
Sante, I am not sure I am new at Scrum, and I might postponed further search for now.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 16, 2018 6:21 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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Scrum is a framework, You will not see inside the framework "the how". You will not find a line inside the Scrum defintion (Scrum guide) about to use user stories, story point, etc, etc. That is the power of the framework: organizations can fill it up with tools and techniques best fit for their current situation. So, you can do that. For example, in my case, we are using MS Project and a project schedule with Scrum. If you ask me, you have to avoid that. In fact, we are using both tools simultaneously. But I can not convince the audit group that it has no sense. Returning to the point, I think that is somthing missing because burn down chart (in my personal opinion and experience) are simple to understand mainly for people that not belongs to IT or software.
Sergio, thank you for nice explanation I have lots on the table right now so I guess I can delay Scrum for the time being.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 16, 2018 8:55 AM
Replying to Drew Craig
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You don't have too, but tbh, it is not complicated. Additionally, sure, it's a different chart type, but allow time to adjust.
Andrew, Yeah I never use it but heard from others telling it is complicated, thanks for your encouraging feedback
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