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Can we use scrum approach without burndown chart?

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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Burn-down chart can be seen much complicated by many team members, is there a way to avoid it?
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 16, 2018 1:41 PM
Replying to Jesus Martheyn
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You don't have to, but it is a nice tool. Anyway, you can use the tool that you prefer for tracking your project progress.
Berbesi, thanks for your feedback can you refer a template for the tool.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 16, 2018 5:33 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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It's a nice little tool to see the work gradually being reduced.
Sante, tbh with you I haven't used it I might in future.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 16, 2018 6:06 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Riyadh -

The only thing less complicated than a burn-down chart (story points or effort hours) to track progress within a sprint would be to just use the Scrum board as a basis for assessing where we are at. However, if we are looking at a release or project spanning multiple sprints, some sort of forecast against the overall backlog is needed and a burnup or burndown chart are good ways to do this...

Kiron
Kiron, this looks like complete different framework which needs more devotion and concentration I will stick with my plan for now and might consider it later after other achievements. thanks for your comment
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
You do not have to use it but I agree with Andrew, it is not complicated, it is actually very simple but Id rather use Burn Up charts as they reveal more info. You can use any information radiator that is sufficient and clear enough to show progress.
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Sep 17, 2018 9:19 PM
Riyadh Salih
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Rami, thanks for your comment yeah it looks like that different approach complete different set up, I might revisit it later
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RAJESH K L Project Manager, PMP| Bharat Electronics, Bengaluru, India Bengaluru, Karnataka, India
Agree with Kiron & Sergio
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Sep 17, 2018 9:20 PM
Riyadh Salih
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Rajesh, thanks for comment
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Shweta Pai Scrum master| ResMed Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Ultimately it depends on what you are trying to measure. If you are new at scrum then your 1st goal is to get the team adjusted to scrum. A lot of times, the scrum master has to work on the mindset of folks. Once the team has adjusted, then we can start looking at burndown/burnup charts. Burndown chart is the next level after your team is comfortable with the new way of working. For a new team, as a SM, I keep eyes on the burndown chart to see how my team is doing i.e. are we closing stories fast enough but I start having the discussions with the team once they have settled in. You don't want the team to close stories just so that the charts are perfect. Hope this helps.
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2 replies by Riyadh Salih and Shweta Pai
Sep 17, 2018 9:23 PM
Riyadh Salih
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Shweta, thanks for your feedback looks like you have master that very well, I always look for such matrix which shows real story.
Sep 18, 2018 8:34 AM
Shweta Pai
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Glad you found it useful. For a new team, until we get the house in order, there is no point in measuring the next level because it would only demotivate them and we definitely don't want that.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 17, 2018 12:14 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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You do not have to use it but I agree with Andrew, it is not complicated, it is actually very simple but Id rather use Burn Up charts as they reveal more info. You can use any information radiator that is sufficient and clear enough to show progress.
Rami, thanks for your comment yeah it looks like that different approach complete different set up, I might revisit it later
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 17, 2018 12:55 AM
Replying to RAJESH K L
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Agree with Kiron & Sergio
Rajesh, thanks for comment
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Sep 17, 2018 12:51 PM
Replying to Shweta Pai
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Ultimately it depends on what you are trying to measure. If you are new at scrum then your 1st goal is to get the team adjusted to scrum. A lot of times, the scrum master has to work on the mindset of folks. Once the team has adjusted, then we can start looking at burndown/burnup charts. Burndown chart is the next level after your team is comfortable with the new way of working. For a new team, as a SM, I keep eyes on the burndown chart to see how my team is doing i.e. are we closing stories fast enough but I start having the discussions with the team once they have settled in. You don't want the team to close stories just so that the charts are perfect. Hope this helps.
Shweta, thanks for your feedback looks like you have master that very well, I always look for such matrix which shows real story.
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Eric Isom Owner| learn.pmguaranteed.com Ut, United States
I highly recommend you start by reading "Scrum: The Art of Doing Twice the Work in Half the Time" for an excellent introduction and broad understanding of the principles and applications of Scrum.

http://a.co/d/3ODBxdr

And then "Essential Scrum" for details of how best to implement it.

http://a.co/d/1tfF1dA
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