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Can someone provide real example please?

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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
We all know the definition of level of efforts, apportioned efforts, discrete efforts from PMBOK guide

I am looking here for real example in real project about the usage of each one, please provide an example.

Discrete Efforts
Apportioned Efforts
Level of Efforts
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Tamer Zeyad Sadiq Assistant Cost Manager| Turner & Townsend Riyadh, Ar Riyad, Saudi Arabia
Good question. I am waiting the answers!!!
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Well I used to estimate in several IT projects
- level of effort for the project manager (1 FTE for the duration of the project)
- apportioned efforts for the quality manager (QA), at e.g. 10% of
- discrete effort following the WBS structure for project work
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Tamer, looks like we are still waiting for our Gurus
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Thomas, thank you so much for pointing out real example, you actually made it more clear
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
A level of effort estimate is your second estimate, after your rough order of magnitude estimate. While the ROM is often +/-50%, the LOE should cut it in half.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Stéphane , Thanks for your reply so as we know that LOE doesn't produce deliverable and the cost variance can fit into that as you mentioned some consider ROM as 30- 70 % or 20 - 80 % You take it as 50% - + so are you referring to the definitive estimate as LOE.
What about the discrete efforts is that related to CPM and all WBS.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
By definition, discrete means a single, small unit. I would take discrete effort to be the lowest amount of effort recorded against an activity.
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Oct 15, 2018 8:59 PM
Riyadh Salih
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Stephane, thanks for the clarification.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Oct 15, 2018 8:03 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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By definition, discrete means a single, small unit. I would take discrete effort to be the lowest amount of effort recorded against an activity.
Stephane, thanks for the clarification.
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Dean Jones Operations manager| Airbus Defence and Space Newport, Wls, United Kingdom
Riyadh,
I would suggest that this is all dependent on what and who you are delivering to (ie the end user). I have found through experience that the effort is ever changing and must be adjusted through the project life. It is all well and good looking at the definitions but these are not set in stone.

The project manager AND his stakeholders must ensure what is progressed and when and how much effort to meet the requirements and scope.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Dean, thank you for your feedback the more real example we get the more we get to know the definition and usage.
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