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What's the process that has Change log as a primary output

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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
This is for discussion...

The question is not looking for project documents updates as an answer...

Other logs has primary outputs, clearly referenced in the PMBOK

Issue Log PMBOK 4.3.3.3
Assumption Log PMBOK 4.1.3.2

Change Log ?????????
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
There might not be a process that has it as a primary output...

Let's listen to different responses...
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
The tricky part of the question is the word "primary". I would say change requests will usually be more primary than the change log.

In the spirit of the question, I would choose Perform Integrated Change Control.
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2 replies by George Lewis
Apr 29, 2019 9:05 AM
George Lewis
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Stephane, I love the fact that you understood the question...

I also love the answer, because even though it is not stated in the PMBOK as a primary output, I would also choose "Perform Integrated Change Control" because it is constantly referenced to that process.

examples:

PMBOK Page 131. Change log. Described in Section 4.6.3.3. The change log contains the status of all change requests.

PMBOK Page 120. 4.6.3.3 PROJECT DOCUMENTS UPDATES
Any formally controlled project document may be changed as a result of this process. A project document that is normally updated as a result of this process is the change log. The change log is used to document changes that occur during a project.
Apr 29, 2019 9:07 AM
George Lewis
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again, I love the response "I would choose"... because I think that there is not a direct mention to a primary output.

for the record if someone asks me, that's the same response I would give... "I would choose"

Thanks for your direct and clear response.
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Apr 29, 2019 8:55 AM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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The tricky part of the question is the word "primary". I would say change requests will usually be more primary than the change log.

In the spirit of the question, I would choose Perform Integrated Change Control.
Stephane, I love the fact that you understood the question...

I also love the answer, because even though it is not stated in the PMBOK as a primary output, I would also choose "Perform Integrated Change Control" because it is constantly referenced to that process.

examples:

PMBOK Page 131. Change log. Described in Section 4.6.3.3. The change log contains the status of all change requests.

PMBOK Page 120. 4.6.3.3 PROJECT DOCUMENTS UPDATES
Any formally controlled project document may be changed as a result of this process. A project document that is normally updated as a result of this process is the change log. The change log is used to document changes that occur during a project.
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Apr 29, 2019 8:55 AM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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The tricky part of the question is the word "primary". I would say change requests will usually be more primary than the change log.

In the spirit of the question, I would choose Perform Integrated Change Control.
again, I love the response "I would choose"... because I think that there is not a direct mention to a primary output.

for the record if someone asks me, that's the same response I would give... "I would choose"

Thanks for your direct and clear response.
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TOLGA TAYLAN Project Manager| ALARKO REALESTATE INVESTMENT COMPANY Istanbul, Turkey, Türkiye
George & Stéphane,

We can only call a request a "Change Request" after the approval of "Project Management Plan". So first item (first change request) can be listed on "Change Log" after its submission. This can only be in "Perform Integrated Change Control" process.
How do you go with this logic?
Best Regards.
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Think the 'change log' is a change control tool (4.6.2.2). A change request is tracked thru it, as it is registered, assessed, approved, tracked and communicated (think implementation and quality control is missing in this list).
The relevant inputs/outputs are the change requests themselves.
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Ed Tsyitee Jr Consultant | Consultant Tucson, Az, United States
If you are managing a project with an agile approach, a change would be considered a pivot. Since agile is client/customer centric, the change could be recorded in a "lessons learned" log. Or listed in the updated back log.

There isn't a formal change process in agile, so I'm just guessing about this.

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