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Full Project Management Plan - Time Spent

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Karrie Dash Sykesville, Md, United States
How long has it taken you to complete a full project management plan that covers all knowledge area plans?

I was asked to estimate the time needed to complete this for a new project to answer a question in an RFP, but I am having a hard time putting a number or range on what I would need. I estimated about 80 hours (10 work days) with two people, but I would like to compare that number to what others have experienced as well.

1. Scope
2. Schedule
3. Cost
4. Quality
5. Change
6. Resource
7. Risk
8. Communication
9. Stakeholder
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KEYULKUMAR DAVE PMP, Six sigma Black belt| Thailand Banchang, Rayong Province, Thailand
How big is the project? this is the basic question and second is requirement complexity
based on that and team capability it can be answered. Also for all project it is different time period.
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Apr 29, 2019 9:08 PM
Karrie Dash
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It is a planning project for a data integration system. Customer is currently providing a 7 month time frame to plan for the system (no development time).
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Karrie Dash Sykesville, Md, United States
Apr 29, 2019 9:04 PM
Replying to KEYULKUMAR DAVE
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How big is the project? this is the basic question and second is requirement complexity
based on that and team capability it can be answered. Also for all project it is different time period.
It is a planning project for a data integration system. Customer is currently providing a 7 month time frame to plan for the system (no development time).
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
As pointed out by Keyulkumar, the size of the project will dictate the level of details needed in your project management plan. You need to expand your list into a WBS to show exactly what project plan artifacts you need to produce. For example, you could easily wind up with a dozen separate documents under Scope alone. (Under my current project, we have eight scope-related documents.)

There are two other things to consider. Are you starting from scratch or do you have templates, samples, and checklists available in your organizational process assets? Have you considered the effort for reviews, reworks and workload sharing?
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Karrie Dash Sykesville, Md, United States
Since this is just an RFP, I don't currently have all the known information to accurately determine how much effort will be needed to create the proposed project plans. This is also just a research and planning project, so many of the specific WBS will be research tasks. I was hoping to compare my current thoughts from what I have gathered from this RFP to other's real-life experiences to better be able to put things into context for estimating.
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
It's a difficult question. As others have pointed out, the total size of the project is a critical factor. There could be 3 people or 300 for the 7 months. There are other considerations such as how mature your processes are. For most of my PM plans, my change management plan is "Use our existing processes". If everything is a purely green-field, you have a lot more planning to do.

If you mean the amount of time required for a budget, you might assume total PM hours are 10% of the total labor and developing the plan is 20% of that.

If you mean the length of time, you might say you have a preliminary plan after one month, and the full committed plan by 1/3 way through the project where there are often major milestones for "Firm Plan" or some equivalent title, where all deliverables are defined with closure plans.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Just to give you an idea, I was the sole project planner for my current project - $100 M and a 120-person team.

It took me the better part of two and a half months to get all the project plan documents completed. 25% of these documents were built from scratch. I had, on average, two cycles of review/rework on each one.
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Mazen AlRefaai Sr Engineer| Saudi Bin Ladin Group Mecca, Saudi Arabia
dear

It is nice and important point to discuss and get benefit from shares experiences

I believe that you can get many answers with wide range of time periods, depending on many factors like project type, value, extension, stakeholders numbers, work conditions ....etc

for me I participated in many project for planning

but I would like to mention one project I did the management plan for it as I was the planner and project manager ( due to small size of project and company)

Project type: Bridge Construction
Project value: 4,000,000 USD
Project time: 9 month
Project planning time: 2 weeks
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Tarik Chougua Project Manager| CEPEO Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
You also need to keep in mind that planning is a progressive and iterative process. You have to consider that in your estimation.
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Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani Manager, Quality and Continuous Improvement| Hörmann-TNR Industrial Doors Newmarket, Ontario, Canada
Well, it has to do with lost of factors such as size, nature, and the industry of project.
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Tamer Zeyad Sadiq Assistant Cost Manager| Turner & Townsend Riyadh, Ar Riyad, Saudi Arabia
It depends on project size, definition, complixity, organization , client requirements,..etc. These factors are project constraints!!!!
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