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Share your experience working with GOVT departments in India and global and how different from managing other private companies projects, which project life cycle and model suits much?

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Ramakant Beernally General Manager, GIS & ITES, E-Governance| SBL KNOWLEDGE SERVICES Pvt. Ltd. New Delhi, Delhi, India
Share your experience working with GOVT departments in India and global and how different from managing other private companies projects, which project life cycle and model suits much?
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Antonio Louro Director Africa| Insight International Luanda, Luanda, Angola
Ramakant. My experience working with Governments around the world tells me that the real challenge is related with the cyclic nature of the Government themselves and as such the projects tend so change from high priorities to low and along with that the project goals change as well. So the real challenge is trying to ensure that the project charter is well developed with a very clear risk and stake holders analysis which in this case the number of them (stake holders) is normal quite big and quite political. Best
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May 01, 2019 8:08 AM
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Thanks for sharing your views. My observations are: You do anything they take a lot of time in finalizing and signing the documents whether it is a project charter, project plan, business rule/specifications, etc. Also one of the big problem in govt. projects are, transfer of Authorised officer from one location to other frequently so when another new authorized officer start looking into the project then you have to start from scratch to educate them, make them understand. Most of the govt. projects get failed because of no clarity of inputs, objective, requirements, state official doing work on central funded, they are not bothered to give required data or time-consuming. Also, projects are influenced by politicians.
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Abolfazl Yousefi Darestani Manager, Quality and Continuous Improvement| Hörmann-TNR Industrial Doors Newmarket, Ontario, Canada
Politics. It is the main difference. moreover, Govs. are generally a little bit slower than the other firms.
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May 01, 2019 8:12 AM
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True and one of the basic difference in govt. & private company projects are:
Private companies are very clear about requirements and objectives and very quick and resolving your queries to execute the projects but in govt. projects many additional components are involved and they are not clear about anything and very time consuming for defining anything, also most of the decisions happens to depend upon political influence.

Thanks for sharing your views. My observations are: You do anything they take a lot of time in finalizing and signing the documents whether it is a project charter, project plan, business rule/specifications, etc. Also one of the big problem in govt. projects are, transfer of Authorised officer from one location to other frequently so when another new authorized officer start looking into the project then you have to start from scratch to educate them, make them understand. Most of the govt. projects get failed because of no clarity of inputs, objective, requirements, state official doing work on central funded, they are not bothered to give required data or time-consuming. Also, projects are influenced by politicians.
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Ramakant Beernally General Manager, GIS & ITES, E-Governance| SBL KNOWLEDGE SERVICES Pvt. Ltd. New Delhi, Delhi, India
May 01, 2019 6:25 AM
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Ramakant. My experience working with Governments around the world tells me that the real challenge is related with the cyclic nature of the Government themselves and as such the projects tend so change from high priorities to low and along with that the project goals change as well. So the real challenge is trying to ensure that the project charter is well developed with a very clear risk and stake holders analysis which in this case the number of them (stake holders) is normal quite big and quite political. Best
Thanks for sharing your views. My observations are: You do anything they take a lot of time in finalizing and signing the documents whether it is a project charter, project plan, business rule/specifications, etc. Also one of the big problem in govt. projects are, transfer of Authorised officer from one location to other frequently so when another new authorized officer start looking into the project then you have to start from scratch to educate them, make them understand. Most of the govt. projects get failed because of no clarity of inputs, objective, requirements, state official doing work on central funded, they are not bothered to give required data or time-consuming. Also, projects are influenced by politicians.
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Ramakant Beernally General Manager, GIS & ITES, E-Governance| SBL KNOWLEDGE SERVICES Pvt. Ltd. New Delhi, Delhi, India
May 01, 2019 7:52 AM
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Politics. It is the main difference. moreover, Govs. are generally a little bit slower than the other firms.
True and one of the basic difference in govt. & private company projects are:
Private companies are very clear about requirements and objectives and very quick and resolving your queries to execute the projects but in govt. projects many additional components are involved and they are not clear about anything and very time consuming for defining anything, also most of the decisions happens to depend upon political influence.

Thanks for sharing your views. My observations are: You do anything they take a lot of time in finalizing and signing the documents whether it is a project charter, project plan, business rule/specifications, etc. Also one of the big problem in govt. projects are, transfer of Authorised officer from one location to other frequently so when another new authorized officer start looking into the project then you have to start from scratch to educate them, make them understand. Most of the govt. projects get failed because of no clarity of inputs, objective, requirements, state official doing work on central funded, they are not bothered to give required data or time-consuming. Also, projects are influenced by politicians.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
There is no difference. The same you find into private companies is what you will find into goverment.
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May 01, 2019 10:06 AM
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Sergio that might be the case if the Government are run like private companies! I never seen that! best
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Antonio Louro Director Africa| Insight International Luanda, Luanda, Angola
May 01, 2019 9:29 AM
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There is no difference. The same you find into private companies is what you will find into goverment.
Sergio that might be the case if the Government are run like private companies! I never seen that! best
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
May 01, 2019 10:21 AM
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Not at all. I working on both sides not only for Argentine Goverment, for other goverments in Europe and USA too (LATAM too obvious). You will find into private companies the same variables than government. Some people said burocracy is a must in governemt. You will find burocracy on lot of private companies mainly hugh companies. Other people said politics is a must. You will find the same in private companies. What people mostly forgot is before to create a solution the buisness analyst (for putting it into a role where people can find more information) must understand the organizational architecture and then helping to create the solution. With that on hand the project manager will create all related to project. There is no reason to suppose that goverment and private are diferent in scence. is the same to run a project in LATAM or Europe or to run a project inside software domain or retail domain. The scence is the same.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
May 01, 2019 10:06 AM
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Sergio that might be the case if the Government are run like private companies! I never seen that! best
Not at all. I working on both sides not only for Argentine Goverment, for other goverments in Europe and USA too (LATAM too obvious). You will find into private companies the same variables than government. Some people said burocracy is a must in governemt. You will find burocracy on lot of private companies mainly hugh companies. Other people said politics is a must. You will find the same in private companies. What people mostly forgot is before to create a solution the buisness analyst (for putting it into a role where people can find more information) must understand the organizational architecture and then helping to create the solution. With that on hand the project manager will create all related to project. There is no reason to suppose that goverment and private are diferent in scence. is the same to run a project in LATAM or Europe or to run a project inside software domain or retail domain. The scence is the same.
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May 01, 2019 10:56 AM
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My views are completely different because I have worked for a Private organization for almost 14 years which includes a lot of projects for USA and Europe countries and almost 10 years for govt. organizations in Asian continents found a lot of differences. One major difference I found is that, in govt. the organization no accountability of authorized officer and they have many ways to escape from their responsibility and accountability so this factor makes more challenging who working with them. The 2nd major factor is that, for govt. organizations you have to work in two different modes like proper liaising and providing a technical solution to the requirements to satisfy them before they get transferred.
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Ramakant Beernally General Manager, GIS & ITES, E-Governance| SBL KNOWLEDGE SERVICES Pvt. Ltd. New Delhi, Delhi, India
May 01, 2019 10:21 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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Not at all. I working on both sides not only for Argentine Goverment, for other goverments in Europe and USA too (LATAM too obvious). You will find into private companies the same variables than government. Some people said burocracy is a must in governemt. You will find burocracy on lot of private companies mainly hugh companies. Other people said politics is a must. You will find the same in private companies. What people mostly forgot is before to create a solution the buisness analyst (for putting it into a role where people can find more information) must understand the organizational architecture and then helping to create the solution. With that on hand the project manager will create all related to project. There is no reason to suppose that goverment and private are diferent in scence. is the same to run a project in LATAM or Europe or to run a project inside software domain or retail domain. The scence is the same.
My views are completely different because I have worked for a Private organization for almost 14 years which includes a lot of projects for USA and Europe countries and almost 10 years for govt. organizations in Asian continents found a lot of differences. One major difference I found is that, in govt. the organization no accountability of authorized officer and they have many ways to escape from their responsibility and accountability so this factor makes more challenging who working with them. The 2nd major factor is that, for govt. organizations you have to work in two different modes like proper liaising and providing a technical solution to the requirements to satisfy them before they get transferred.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
May 01, 2019 11:12 AM
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The same into private organizations If you have a person accountable it does not matter it will help you. For example, if you annual objetives do not match with project objectives. The second point you stated can be the same into private institutions.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
May 01, 2019 10:56 AM
Replying to Ramakant Beernally
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My views are completely different because I have worked for a Private organization for almost 14 years which includes a lot of projects for USA and Europe countries and almost 10 years for govt. organizations in Asian continents found a lot of differences. One major difference I found is that, in govt. the organization no accountability of authorized officer and they have many ways to escape from their responsibility and accountability so this factor makes more challenging who working with them. The 2nd major factor is that, for govt. organizations you have to work in two different modes like proper liaising and providing a technical solution to the requirements to satisfy them before they get transferred.
The same into private organizations If you have a person accountable it does not matter it will help you. For example, if you annual objetives do not match with project objectives. The second point you stated can be the same into private institutions.
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1 reply by Ramakant Beernally
May 01, 2019 2:05 PM
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Thanks for your views, it means all possibility exists in both govt. organization and Private company projets but I haven't come across.
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Ramakant Beernally General Manager, GIS & ITES, E-Governance| SBL KNOWLEDGE SERVICES Pvt. Ltd. New Delhi, Delhi, India
May 01, 2019 11:12 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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The same into private organizations If you have a person accountable it does not matter it will help you. For example, if you annual objetives do not match with project objectives. The second point you stated can be the same into private institutions.
Thanks for your views, it means all possibility exists in both govt. organization and Private company projets but I haven't come across.
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