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How much support is there for project managers learning Agile?

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Jay Alphey Program Director| lowRISC CIC - making open-source silicon a reality Cambridge, United Kingdom
My background is in leading program management teams, but I now lead and coach in Agile development. There seems a continuing tension between the classical and agile communities. How easy do project managers find accessing good material to build their understanding of Agile?
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
May 23, 2019 11:29 AM
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Thanks Sergio. As you say, Agile was evolved (at least in part) from Lean. But Schwaber in 1995 referenced Takeuchi and Nonaka as an origin point for his work on Scrum, so it clearly has some Agile validity. I'll leave it to wiser heads than mine to draw a hard line in the progression and say "Agile started here" :-).
I'd argue that classical (and many agile) teams could learn from Lean principles, but the original question was about how we can reduce perceived tension by helping classical teams learn from Agile (and vice-versa) .
That´s the problem. Agile was create on 1990 with basement into an artilce of 1985 where the Agile term was first used. The article´s name was "Agile Manufacturing". Methods create for sofrware product creation took the basement of Lean. Scrum was create from object orientation and Lean, nor from Agile.
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Wade Harshman Scrum Master| GDIT Indianapolis, In, United States
May 23, 2019 11:29 AM
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Thanks Sergio. As you say, Agile was evolved (at least in part) from Lean. But Schwaber in 1995 referenced Takeuchi and Nonaka as an origin point for his work on Scrum, so it clearly has some Agile validity. I'll leave it to wiser heads than mine to draw a hard line in the progression and say "Agile started here" :-).
I'd argue that classical (and many agile) teams could learn from Lean principles, but the original question was about how we can reduce perceived tension by helping classical teams learn from Agile (and vice-versa) .
Agile and Lean are different, but definitely related. It's easy to see the similarities.

When discussing agility with business leaders, I have occasionally "translated" agile terms into lean terms in order to help them understand. I've had people tell me that I shouldn't do that, and they may be correct, but if it helps the organization then I'm willing. It's funny, but I've met people who are very resistant to Agile, but if I make the same recommendation using Lean terms and principles then they'll agree to it.
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