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DORA LUZ Mejia CEO| IT Explore Envigado, Antioquia, Colombia
I want to ask about using whats up, kaizala or similar for text message communication in projects. Right now I have more than 15 groups in whats up others in kaizala others in teams and prohects are co municating progress status , critical issues in this way. On the other hand team members are using memes an and making fan in the same whats up group. I want to know about somo pmo practices and policies for these tools.
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DORA LUZ Mejia CEO| IT Explore Envigado, Antioquia, Colombia
Jul 28, 2019 12:43 PM
Replying to Matthew Irving
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Hi Dora,

As long as you aren't communicating any PHI or other sensitive information, monday.com is a great tool to use.

Here is a link detailing how they communicate:

https://support.monday.com/hc/en-us/articl...e-with-my-team-

Back to your issue of policing correspondence. With Monday.com, unlike Whats App, you can designate an Admin to monitor communication. If you locate an offender, your standard disciplinary procedures should apply.

For example,

1st offense - verbal warning (document all contact with offender)
2nd offense - written warning
3rd offense - written warning + counseling
4th offense - removal from project and possible termination of employment by functional manager (if applicable)

Hopefully this helps.

Best of luck!
thanks for your feedback. I am going to take a look of this tool
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DORA LUZ Mejia CEO| IT Explore Envigado, Antioquia, Colombia
Jul 28, 2019 8:28 PM
Replying to Mauricio Corral
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We also use whatsapp mostly, but when we have critical projects that require multiple disciplines we use Trello. This tool can provide us with information regarding a project, without affecting our social network.
thanks mauricio.
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DORA LUZ Mejia CEO| IT Explore Envigado, Antioquia, Colombia
Jul 29, 2019 9:09 AM
Replying to Eduard Hernandez
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Like with any other tool, it requires certain ground rules and/or process to optimize its outcome. If the group is so busy that one has to scroll across hundreds of messages, it does not add value, to the contrary. In my case, we use WhatsApp for the execution of certain activities that occur inside the production plant. The messages are used to provide a real time update on the progress. Otherwise, we do not use WhatsApp to discuss other matters, I prefer f2f or virtual meetings.
Thanks. it is a kind of policy to use what's up. some PMsthink that if they post something in what¿s up team is obligated to answer..
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DORA LUZ Mejia CEO| IT Explore Envigado, Antioquia, Colombia
Jul 29, 2019 2:24 AM
Replying to Daling Yu
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We just began to use Microsoft Teams together with One Driver. These functions make us be able to build conversation per project & per topic, at the same time we can organize documents in One Driver and link the documents to project either for independent or shared cross projects. And there can also book meetings, write meeting minutes, etc.
agrre. I am using as well teams and one drive. I am curious about how to limited using what¿sup in some teams
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Wade Harshman Scrum Master| GDIT Indianapolis, In, United States
I've had the same problems with all of these (WhatsApp, Slack, Teams, etc.).

1) First, I'm expected or required to sync it with my phone. It's convenient at first, but soon I'm expected to be available 24/7.

2) Next, team members will start using it for casual conversation. This is fun at first and supports team morale, but eventually starts to crowd out the actual business conversations we need to have. Combine it with #1, and I'm eventually getting messages after midnight from 2 drunk team members. I can ignore that channel, but then I miss out on business conversations.

3) In order to contain the casual conversation, new channels are created. And more new channels. And maybe a channel for the team without the project sponsor, because some team members aren't comfortable with her listening in on everything we say. But we'll eventually have an important conversation in that channel and when the project sponsor finds out about it a week later, she'll want to be invited to it, so someone will create another channel to continue unsupervised team conversations. Eventually, we have so many channels for the same team that important messages and files are lost. We'll hear conversations like "Where is that document?" "I put it in Teams." "Where?" "It's in one of our channels, you'll just have to search for it."

4) Because the tool isn't proving effective in coordinating our team communication, someone asks management to approve yet another team chat tool.


As someone said earlier, you have to set the ground rules for team chats up front. And you have to enforce those rules, or it quickly becomes uncontrollable.
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2 replies by Stéphane Parent and Vincent Guerard
Jul 30, 2019 11:57 AM
Stéphane Parent
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I've gone through the same stages of grief with Slack on one project. Unstructured communication does not play well with project management expectations.
Jul 30, 2019 2:04 PM
Vincent Guerard
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Good description, I can add that if you need to have a record of the project it did not sound practical and very slow.
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Antonio Louro Director Africa| Insight International Luanda, Luanda, Angola
Jul 28, 2019 6:49 PM
Replying to Jose Luis Gonzalez Rugel
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There really is no tool for that. Here we make a group per cell and a group of scrum masters. Slack allows working groups and is a bit more controllable since they are all in the same space.
I agree with Jose the only way you can and must stop informal communication is by allocating the Team in the same office / space!
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Mauricio Corral Functional Manager| AUDINSA Guayaquil, Guayas, Ecuador
As human beings that we are, our face-to-face meetings must be standards of behavior and content. I also believe that a moderator is required to monitor the intention of the Working Group.
These rules and regulations must be established at the beginning, after recruitment and for each new recruit.
The participation of each element implies the acceptance of the rules and if necessary they must be remembered for a normal development of the work team.
We will take this same procedure to the digital world for the same purpose, so that it works well.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Jul 30, 2019 8:49 AM
Replying to Wade Harshman
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I've had the same problems with all of these (WhatsApp, Slack, Teams, etc.).

1) First, I'm expected or required to sync it with my phone. It's convenient at first, but soon I'm expected to be available 24/7.

2) Next, team members will start using it for casual conversation. This is fun at first and supports team morale, but eventually starts to crowd out the actual business conversations we need to have. Combine it with #1, and I'm eventually getting messages after midnight from 2 drunk team members. I can ignore that channel, but then I miss out on business conversations.

3) In order to contain the casual conversation, new channels are created. And more new channels. And maybe a channel for the team without the project sponsor, because some team members aren't comfortable with her listening in on everything we say. But we'll eventually have an important conversation in that channel and when the project sponsor finds out about it a week later, she'll want to be invited to it, so someone will create another channel to continue unsupervised team conversations. Eventually, we have so many channels for the same team that important messages and files are lost. We'll hear conversations like "Where is that document?" "I put it in Teams." "Where?" "It's in one of our channels, you'll just have to search for it."

4) Because the tool isn't proving effective in coordinating our team communication, someone asks management to approve yet another team chat tool.


As someone said earlier, you have to set the ground rules for team chats up front. And you have to enforce those rules, or it quickly becomes uncontrollable.
I've gone through the same stages of grief with Slack on one project. Unstructured communication does not play well with project management expectations.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Jul 30, 2019 8:49 AM
Replying to Wade Harshman
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I've had the same problems with all of these (WhatsApp, Slack, Teams, etc.).

1) First, I'm expected or required to sync it with my phone. It's convenient at first, but soon I'm expected to be available 24/7.

2) Next, team members will start using it for casual conversation. This is fun at first and supports team morale, but eventually starts to crowd out the actual business conversations we need to have. Combine it with #1, and I'm eventually getting messages after midnight from 2 drunk team members. I can ignore that channel, but then I miss out on business conversations.

3) In order to contain the casual conversation, new channels are created. And more new channels. And maybe a channel for the team without the project sponsor, because some team members aren't comfortable with her listening in on everything we say. But we'll eventually have an important conversation in that channel and when the project sponsor finds out about it a week later, she'll want to be invited to it, so someone will create another channel to continue unsupervised team conversations. Eventually, we have so many channels for the same team that important messages and files are lost. We'll hear conversations like "Where is that document?" "I put it in Teams." "Where?" "It's in one of our channels, you'll just have to search for it."

4) Because the tool isn't proving effective in coordinating our team communication, someone asks management to approve yet another team chat tool.


As someone said earlier, you have to set the ground rules for team chats up front. And you have to enforce those rules, or it quickly becomes uncontrollable.
Good description, I can add that if you need to have a record of the project it did not sound practical and very slow.
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