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Hannah Scarbro IT Project Manager| AFL Global Spartanburg, SC, United States
I am currently trying to calculate my hour into the PMP applicaiton.
My issue is that I have worked a few large projects combined with multiple small projects at the same time. We're always running 3-5 projects per person.
How do I calculate the overlapping HOURS for all of those projects? I'm struggling to find a tool that will show me if I go "OVER" hours for a certain time frame and manually calculating these is making my brain hurt.
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Hannah Scarbro IT Project Manager| AFL Global Spartanburg, SC, United States
Aug 19, 2019 10:52 AM
Replying to POSHAK VISHNOI
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So you are experienced in PM but try to calculate hrs in years of experience. Example:- 40 hrs. a week and 40*4=160 hrs. in a Month and so on.
This was helpful. I calculated hours per month as you suggested and compared per month what i was claiming.
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Hannah Scarbro IT Project Manager| AFL Global Spartanburg, SC, United States
Aug 19, 2019 9:51 AM
Replying to Bob Thomas
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If you are spending days working on this, you're making it harder than it needs to be.

I knew people who spent weeks on the application. From their experiences it seemed unnecessarily difficult.

After I gathered my information, it took 10 minutes to complete the application. I was guided by a man who worked with PMI and knew what they look for. if you are taking, or have taken a course, ask the instructor for help. It's not as difficult as it seems.
It would take me more than 10 minutes to even enter my projects into the site much less gather all the info. Maybe if you're working on a few large projects over the course of 3 years but not when you have 3-4 projects at a time..
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Hannah Scarbro IT Project Manager| AFL Global Spartanburg, SC, United States
Aug 18, 2019 7:26 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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My recoomendation is following which @Rami stated above and just in case you still have doubts contact PMI´s Cutomer Care. Just to comment overlaping counts like one project. I meat if you worked in two simultaneous project it counts like one.
I think from my research that this is not true. the projects can be claimed separately but the months cannot be counted separately. Ex. I cant claim more hours in the month but I can claim for hours on all the projects I spent that month even if they run simultaneously. Its easy not to do such because the application will only count the months once thankfully so I dont have to worry about only listing them once. But it does let you claim the hours.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Aug 19, 2019 11:11 AM
Rami Kaibni
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True, you can claim the projects separately but not the months and that’s exactly what the PMI document I referred you to explains exactly.

For example, you can claim that you worked a whole month on one project and the same month on another. While it is true that months are automatically calculated by PMI application, the hours you enter per project per domain are not.
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Hannah Scarbro IT Project Manager| AFL Global Spartanburg, SC, United States
Aug 16, 2019 1:14 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Hannah,
I would do as Jon says, but if you are full time as a PM, use 2000 hrs/year but multiply by 0.8 because about 80% (1600) is about as much as people can spend assigned when dedicated to their project(s). The other time is the administrative stuff like team meetings, performance reviews with your manager, etc. That's a pretty standard efficiency factor.

If you have a couple big projects and some smaller ones, I generally assume about 40 to 60% of my time is on the big projects, with the rest divided between the small ones. How you divide the time up between phases is pretty arbitrary. Sometimes you can plan them well and they're easy to manage. Sometimes problems come up and you spend all your time in the execution or closure phases.

You can divide it up with various proportions like front loaded, level loaded, etc. but getting more precise than that is a waste of time. Nobody is going to audit your actual charging.
This definitely helped. I was already calculating percentages spent on projects in an excel so I just had to take it that step further and compare based on spending about 80% of time per month. Good suggestions! Thanks
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 19, 2019 11:05 AM
Replying to Hannah Scarbro
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I think from my research that this is not true. the projects can be claimed separately but the months cannot be counted separately. Ex. I cant claim more hours in the month but I can claim for hours on all the projects I spent that month even if they run simultaneously. Its easy not to do such because the application will only count the months once thankfully so I dont have to worry about only listing them once. But it does let you claim the hours.
True, you can claim the projects separately but not the months and that’s exactly what the PMI document I referred you to explains exactly.

For example, you can claim that you worked a whole month on one project and the same month on another. While it is true that months are automatically calculated by PMI application, the hours you enter per project per domain are not.
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James Shields IS Director - Portfolio Solutions| City and County of San Francisco, SFPD San Francisco, Ca, United States
Just a comment about total hours in a year's time.

There are 2080 hours in a year (40 hours * 52 weeks). From that, there is likely 80 hours in holidays. Now were at 2000 hours. Then there is vacation -- whatever you average in a year's time.

If vacation is 80 hours, you are now at at 1920 hours. And this supports the previous comment of 40 hrs/week or 160 hours per month (160 * 12 = 1920).

However, you should base it on something less than 40 hrs/week as nobody spends 100% of their available time on projects (and overtime is not allowed as consideration from a PMI perspective). What I used was 35 hrs/week or 140 hours per month (140 * 12 = 1680).

Recommendation: Use something 1920 hours per year. This will help you should you be audited and have to justify your hours.
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James Shields IS Director - Portfolio Solutions| City and County of San Francisco, SFPD San Francisco, Ca, United States
The less-than symbol didn't come thru … Use something less than 1920 hours per year (as a recommendation).
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Aug 19, 2019 11:01 AM
Replying to Hannah Scarbro
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Thanks. That's very helpful. I did the percentage tricks you explained and that helped a lot to compare those to hours available per month. I did notice a few areas where I seemed to have over estimated just because you cant accurately explain through percentages when you're working on a long term project with smaller projects and fluctuating priorities so I was able to more accurately portray the project hours for that one project by splitting it into two phases over different time periods, design and implementation since they happened in two project cycles..
I'm glad you were able to work it through. It sounds like you did a bit of problem solving along the way.

We'll be happy to support you during your preparation and study.
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Alex Poon Hong Kong, Hong Kong, Hong Kong
Wish you good luck in exam Hannah
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Mohammad Anwer Khan Lighting Xpressions Sdn Bhd Indonesia
Hello everyone!
Need help, my role in project management involves: research, development, prototype and bulk production based on multiple one off Custom design Decorative Lighting fixtures and manufacture.
And I have also been involved in managing the Projects. Project size varries from small to large.
I've over 15 years of experience.
Any tips on how to calculate number of hours?
Thanks
Season's greetings
MAK
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