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Gongyuan Chen Senior Agile Coach| Serfu Enterprise Consulting (Hongkong) Co., Ltd. China, Mainland
Scrum starts from the department, expands to the organization, and then expands to SAFe
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
I think you can use SAFe well before expanding to the organizaiton. The use of the framework is more dictated by the project using it, than the organization.

For example, we are currently using NEXUS for our scaled-up Scrum project. Yet, the organization is nowhere near being agile.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
SAFe is just one scaled agile method - teams which have begun with Scrum could move to a continuous flow model (sprint-less) or adopt one of the other Scrum-based scaled agile frameworks such as LeSS, Scrum @ Scale or Nexus.

Disciplined Agile can be used as the tailoring framework to support scaling regardless of the commercial method picked...

Kiron
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Alex Poon Hong Kong, Hong Kong, Hong Kong
Implementing Agile is always a hard-job, good luck
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Aug 24, 2019 6:51 AM
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@Alex, is not a hard job. Is so simple than any other things. The problem is people that said to know and understand about agile do not know and understand about it realy.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Sorry, but this is totally wrong. All agile based methods where created with systemic thinking as a driver then is nothing to scale. In fact, Agile was created taking into account the organization as a whole. If you try to do what you try to do you will fail. In fact, when you see and understand the method to scale agile they are a mess. SAFe is the example of an anti-agile way to do things (no matter I am in charge to implement it in my actual work place).
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Aug 23, 2019 9:58 PM
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Implementing Agile is always a hard-job, good luck
@Alex, is not a hard job. Is so simple than any other things. The problem is people that said to know and understand about agile do not know and understand about it realy.

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