PMI conducts 8 certifications out of which 7 are professional/practitioner and one is certified associate. Any idea as to how many people hold all 7 Professional/Practitioner certifications? Saving Changes...
Everyone has attempted or received one or more certifications for some cause, whether for promoting PMI or otherwise. One does not question the reason as everyone has different reasons. My only submission is let us not give different color to this just because someone has done more certifications that he/she is collecting them for nothing.Yo are aware that the expenses and devotion required for the same is not that easy. Saving Changes...
Vladimir LiberzonR&D Director| Spider Project TeamMoscow, Russian Federation
Nov 17, 2019 6:13 AM
Replying to Bharatkumar Unercat
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It depends upon the role one is playing in the organisation. I do not think that only one certification PMP is good. If that would have been the case PMI would not have introduced other certifications.
I also personally feel that certifications are the by products of one's journey. Whether it is one certification or many it does not matter since everyone has different paths to charter. Only when one tries to walk that path one would realize the difference in certifications.
I have nothing against having many certifications, I just don't understand why people spend time and money to get more and more certifications. What does it prove?
I understand that one (PMP) verifies that you know PMI terminology and understand ANSI standard (PMBOK Guide). It may be required at certain jobs. Why others?
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2 replies by Bharatkumar Unercat and Rami Kaibni
Nov 17, 2019 8:01 AM
Bharatkumar Unercat
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I have no further comments than what I already said. As mentioned , people have different paths .
Nov 17, 2019 3:05 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Vladimir
I respect your point of view even though I beg to disagree with you. Do you really think that by having the PMP, you know everything related to project management ? This is true if your future plans evolves around staying as a project manager.
The world of business and management is rapidly evolving. Business Analysis, Portfolio Management, Program Management, Agile, Role of PMO’s is evolving and spreading like fire in a wild bush so while I understand that the certificate is not the purpose, it is the journey and knowledge that are very important. I can personally talk about myself and how much this knowledge helped me progress in my career, helped me take part in growing the profession and others.
I wrote an article once about the added value of certifications, you might want to check it out:
There will be another article coming up soon that tackles how each of the certifications I acquired over the years helped me grow as a professional and person.
By the way, I am not trying to defend anyone here but Bharat is one of the very few people who takes knowledge and volunteer to help others free of charge. At some point, Bharat helped me out voluntarily and I do not even know him in person so we got to have some respect for professionals who learn and help spread this knowledge.
Most people keep knowledge for themselves, and when asked, they are ready to help for something else in return.
RK
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 17, 2019 6:09 AM
Replying to Bharatkumar Unercat
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Exactly. So why do you infer others are collecting certificates. Everybody has a different path and hence different ways to go through that path.Just because someone has more than one certification does not mean that they are collecting and if someone has one they are on a journey.
Dear Bharatkumar
People who have many certificates can answer your question better than me, "Why so many certifications?"
You can even do a study on the subject: "What leads people to have so many certifications? The knowledge gained (journey) or the certificates obtained? (Destiny)"
We agree with: "Each one chooses his own way" and the best attitude is to accept, respect and value the way each one chooses for himself. Saving Changes...
Exactly. So why do you infer others are collecting certificates. Everybody has a different path and hence different ways to go through that path.Just because someone has more than one certification does not mean that they are collecting and if someone has one they are on a journey.
I have nothing against having many certifications, I just don't understand why people spend time and money to get more and more certifications. What does it prove?
I understand that one (PMP) verifies that you know PMI terminology and understand ANSI standard (PMBOK Guide). It may be required at certain jobs. Why others?
I have no further comments than what I already said. As mentioned , people have different paths . Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 17, 2019 5:14 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Bharatkumar
Interesting your question
Thanks for sharing
I confess I was surprised by the question
For me the most important thing is the journey (learning) and not the destination (certificates)
It never crossed my mind that there were people collecting certificates :-)
Collecting Certificates ? Do you really think this is what Bharat meant ?
This statement very much undermines the effort whether it is time or money that professionals spend on their professional development. This is called Professional Development. It makes me really surprised knowing that professionals like yourself call this Collecting Certificates as if we are in a cherry picking farm !
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Nov 17, 2019 6:54 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Rami: Thanks for asking these questions: "Collecting Certificates? Do you really think this is what Bharat meant?"
Have you had a chance to read the message exchange between me and Bharatkumar? All messages exchanged?
What does it mean to you, what I wrote in our message exchange? "We agree with: Each one chooses his own way and the best attitude is to accept, respect and value the way each one chooses for himself."
A value judgment? A trial?
Or, on the contrary, acceptance, respect and appreciation?
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 17, 2019 6:28 AM
Replying to Vladimir Liberzon
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I have nothing against having many certifications, I just don't understand why people spend time and money to get more and more certifications. What does it prove?
I understand that one (PMP) verifies that you know PMI terminology and understand ANSI standard (PMBOK Guide). It may be required at certain jobs. Why others?
Vladimir
I respect your point of view even though I beg to disagree with you. Do you really think that by having the PMP, you know everything related to project management ? This is true if your future plans evolves around staying as a project manager.
The world of business and management is rapidly evolving. Business Analysis, Portfolio Management, Program Management, Agile, Role of PMO’s is evolving and spreading like fire in a wild bush so while I understand that the certificate is not the purpose, it is the journey and knowledge that are very important. I can personally talk about myself and how much this knowledge helped me progress in my career, helped me take part in growing the profession and others.
I wrote an article once about the added value of certifications, you might want to check it out:
There will be another article coming up soon that tackles how each of the certifications I acquired over the years helped me grow as a professional and person.
By the way, I am not trying to defend anyone here but Bharat is one of the very few people who takes knowledge and volunteer to help others free of charge. At some point, Bharat helped me out voluntarily and I do not even know him in person so we got to have some respect for professionals who learn and help spread this knowledge.
Most people keep knowledge for themselves, and when asked, they are ready to help for something else in return.
RK
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1 reply by Vladimir Liberzon
Nov 18, 2019 10:00 AM
Vladimir Liberzon
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Hi Rami,
it looks as if I was misunderstood.
I have nothing against people who passed many certifications.
I am just curious about their motives.
I am involved in everything that you mentioned (program and portfolio management, business analysis, etc.) but I don't understand what can I get with any new certification from PMI.
And so my question was about the value of multiple certifications. People spend time and money to get new certificates for what? Does it help for promotion and finding customers or what?
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Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
Everyone, please. Each individual has different motivations and drivers. It is unprofessional to project one's perspective or assumptions on others. Simply b/c one doesn't care to have multiple certifications does not afford them the opportunity to second guess why others wish to expand their professional development activities.
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2 replies by Luis Branco and Rami Kaibni
Nov 17, 2019 7:07 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Andrew:
Interesting your comment
You wrote: "It is unprofessional to project one's perspective or assumptions on others"
It referred to me and the messages I exchanged with the
Bharatkumar?
What you wrote about my messages can be considered a value judgment?
What does it mean to you what I wrote in Bharatkumar message exchange?
- "We agree with: Each one chooses his own way and the best attitude is to accept, respect and value the way each one chooses for himself."
Nov 17, 2019 7:25 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Very well said Andrew, totally agree - I am really surprised, actually very surprised.
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 17, 2019 2:53 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Collecting Certificates ? Do you really think this is what Bharat meant ?
This statement very much undermines the effort whether it is time or money that professionals spend on their professional development. This is called Professional Development. It makes me really surprised knowing that professionals like yourself call this Collecting Certificates as if we are in a cherry picking farm !
Dear Rami: Thanks for asking these questions: "Collecting Certificates? Do you really think this is what Bharat meant?"
Have you had a chance to read the message exchange between me and Bharatkumar? All messages exchanged?
What does it mean to you, what I wrote in our message exchange? "We agree with: Each one chooses his own way and the best attitude is to accept, respect and value the way each one chooses for himself."
A value judgment? A trial?
Or, on the contrary, acceptance, respect and appreciation?
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 17, 2019 7:29 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Luis
Your statement: "We agree with: Each one chooses his own way and the best attitude is to accept, respect and value the way each one chooses for himself." - It means respect and appreciation but what surprised me is your other statement and the fact that you were sarcastic about people who have multiple certifications and calling it Certification Collection.
RK
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 17, 2019 5:43 PM
Replying to Drew Craig
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Everyone, please. Each individual has different motivations and drivers. It is unprofessional to project one's perspective or assumptions on others. Simply b/c one doesn't care to have multiple certifications does not afford them the opportunity to second guess why others wish to expand their professional development activities.
Dear Andrew:
Interesting your comment
You wrote: "It is unprofessional to project one's perspective or assumptions on others"
It referred to me and the messages I exchanged with the
Bharatkumar?
What you wrote about my messages can be considered a value judgment?
What does it mean to you what I wrote in Bharatkumar message exchange?
- "We agree with: Each one chooses his own way and the best attitude is to accept, respect and value the way each one chooses for himself."
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1 reply by Drew Craig
Nov 18, 2019 7:33 AM
Drew Craig
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Luis - my response clearly was not directed at any one individual, but rather as a recognition that this thread was heading in the wrong direction. Thanks.