Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 04, 2019 4:18 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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In most cases, I would not want a team to operate like a F1 team or commando team although we can study what they do that makes them so good at their jobs. They involve extreme levels of risk, extreme cost, and low levels of resource utilization. People normally can’t do those jobs very long due to the stresses involved and the consequences of when things go wrong.
Both types of teams work in an extremely dangerous environments where vulnerable people are working very close to high levels of hazardous energy, in an extremely high stress environment where very bad accidents happen very quickly. It is extremely expensive as all the equipment involved is very much purpose built, and a lot of intense training is required to perform their tasks precisely and reflexively. They say that the training ammunition budget for SEAL Team 6 is larger than for the whole US Marine Corps, and F1 teams arrive at the tracks with small cities packed into large trucks.
When those teams executes their tasks, each person has a very specific job that they have drilled for to reach perfection. They may have to improvise when things go wrong, but that is where the danger increases exponentially. With the massive costs and complexities involved, those teams are also used for very specific purposes. You could be Left Rear Tire Man #1 or Guy Who Busts the Door Down and that is your whole job for a mission. That's like having a specialist on the project team for a year, that only performs their job for a week.
I would use endurance auto racing teams or more general purpose military squads as a better example. They still do a lot of training for their roles, but there is more cross-training and versatility. They also are not constantly on the razors edge of disaster which means fewer risks become issues and the longevity of teams is much better. As we say in endurance racing: “To finish first, first you must finish.” so risk management involves a lot more mitigation and avoidance rather than primarily acceptance and "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead". We still plan and practice fairly intensely and endure a lot of stress during critical times, but our primary concern is that everyone goes home safely at the end of the day. That's a much more sustainable project team model if your people aren't expendable.
Dear Keith
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your analysis.
Let's consider the case of the teams of formula 1.
We agree that work is dangerous and team members are under great pressure.
Let's look at the operations they perform.
Are they repetitive?
Could the most dangerous operations be performed by robots?
Or all the processes?
If we did that (robot replacement teams) we would be in a digital transformation project
Of course, the business case is missing
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1 reply by Keith Novak
Nov 05, 2019 11:36 AM
Keith Novak
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The lack of a business case is exactly why there are only extremely rare instances where project teams would want to operate like those highly specialized functions. Those economies only apply to an arms race. Most nations can't afford them. You may be able to use technology to mitigate the risks, but that technology itself is extremely expensive when used very rarely.
Similarly, if you have a purely project based team (no matrixing) where certain specialists are dedicated to a team for the duration but only participate during a tiny part of it, you are carrying that cost for the length of the project. The benefit is they are available when you need them.
One bit of wisdom given to me as a race car driver myself by a long time professional in the sport is "Slow down. You'll go faster." Sometimes, rather than trying to always perform at 110% where the margin of error is zero, and the cost of errors is extremely high, you are better off focusing on sustainability and consistency. The strategies involved often consider whether you will benefit more over a longer period if your raw speed is better, or if you stop less.
Likewise any projects perform better when treated like a marathon, rather than like a sprint. There is a saying we often use when projects involve bursts of high intensity to meet deadlines, and then large gaps before we can engage again: "Hurry up and wait."
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 04, 2019 4:31 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Luis -
To get higher levels of productivity from knowledge workers, inspire them (a la Daniel Pink or Patrick Lencioni) and enable them to focus.
While automation (e.g. AI) might help improve productivity, effective leadership is likely to help even more.
Kiron
Dear Kiron
Thank you once again for your opinions and your contribution to the reflection on this topic.
Let's go to the case of formula 1
We agree that we have two possible solutions: "digital transformation (replacement of team members by robots) and / or working with people (using proposals from Daniel Pink or Patrick Lencioni Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 04, 2019 4:31 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Luis -
To get higher levels of productivity from knowledge workers, inspire them (a la Daniel Pink or Patrick Lencioni) and enable them to focus.
While automation (e.g. AI) might help improve productivity, effective leadership is likely to help even more.
Kiron
Dear Kiron
I really enjoyed:
- "A Whole New Mind : Moving from the Information Age to the Conceptual Age"
- "Drive"
I haven't had a chance to read anything about "Patrick Lencioni" Saving Changes...
Senthil SPM III| GGS Information Services IncChennai, Tamil Nadu, India
It is best to conduct a daily standup or huddle and to ensure you have a scrum of scrum and make sure necessary and sufficient training is provided for all team members to ensure they are at the same level. Also conduct periodic performance reviews to ensure they are on track and committed to achieve the common goal.
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2 replies by Luis Branco and Scott Ambler
Nov 06, 2019 3:33 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Senthil
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
I know organizations (operations) where the daily meeting is held and they have not implemented scrum in the project development approach.
We agree that the performances are achieved by training
In a project context, who should bear the costs of training? The organization or the project?
Being project teams outsourced (current practice nowadays) will the organization invest in training these people?
Nov 06, 2019 5:50 AM
Scott Ambler
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Yes, a team huddle (daily or not) was a common practice long before Scrum popularized it within the agile community.
Holding some form of reflection/retrospective session was also an important practice long before agilists stumbled into it. But few teams execute them well unfortunately. I've written about this, and how to actually execute well, in Guided Continuous Improvement (GCI) at https://disciplinedagiledelivery.com/gci/.
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Suneel Kumar NadellaDirector (Self Employed)| Manasai Services Pvt Ltd (Self Employed)Solihull, West Midlands, United Kingdom
Nov 04, 2019 2:20 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Suneel
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinions.
Want to share with us the results you achieved as a result of implementing these 5 points?
I had a chance of managing a large Energy and Utilities service provider based out of London (FTSE 25 company) over a 10-year duration. I had a team of around 40+ consultants with disparate knowledge levels and backgrounds as part of my team. As a manager, I had a 10-year vision based on the organisation's business and IT strategies that they have embarked upon. The team was reactive and just executing the orders given by Client Managers, to begin with. It took some time for me to realise that the team was not motivated enough to do proactive work as they had uncertainties about the length of contracts and also personal/professional aspirations. Then I started rolling out the five initiatives gradually year-on-year to streamline and address their issues. It helped to result in the following benefits (Tangible and quantified):
(1). We have expanded our services into the strategic areas of business and future growth.
(2). Incentive schemes motivated employees to perform "beyond the call of duty" and participation in idea generation to proposal submission to clients.
(3). Long term contracts were awarded by customer with logical grouping of services (from 3 months extension to 3 yeard contracts)
(4). We have grown our team size from 40 to 300 over 10 yeard duration.
(5). We have won several individual and team awards/rewards from Clients as well as internal management.
(6). Our account was awarded best UK account and referenceable account by corporate in 2008(after 10 years of starting the exercise).
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2 replies by Luis Branco
Nov 05, 2019 6:09 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Suneel
Thanks for sharing
I take the opportunity to congratulate you on the fantastic results.
Nov 05, 2019 8:50 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Suneel
I am convinced that with everyone's input we focus on richer and knowing other perspectives
Thank you for your participation
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 05, 2019 6:05 AM
Replying to Suneel Kumar Nadella
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I had a chance of managing a large Energy and Utilities service provider based out of London (FTSE 25 company) over a 10-year duration. I had a team of around 40+ consultants with disparate knowledge levels and backgrounds as part of my team. As a manager, I had a 10-year vision based on the organisation's business and IT strategies that they have embarked upon. The team was reactive and just executing the orders given by Client Managers, to begin with. It took some time for me to realise that the team was not motivated enough to do proactive work as they had uncertainties about the length of contracts and also personal/professional aspirations. Then I started rolling out the five initiatives gradually year-on-year to streamline and address their issues. It helped to result in the following benefits (Tangible and quantified):
(1). We have expanded our services into the strategic areas of business and future growth.
(2). Incentive schemes motivated employees to perform "beyond the call of duty" and participation in idea generation to proposal submission to clients.
(3). Long term contracts were awarded by customer with logical grouping of services (from 3 months extension to 3 yeard contracts)
(4). We have grown our team size from 40 to 300 over 10 yeard duration.
(5). We have won several individual and team awards/rewards from Clients as well as internal management.
(6). Our account was awarded best UK account and referenceable account by corporate in 2008(after 10 years of starting the exercise).
Dear Suneel
Thanks for sharing
I take the opportunity to congratulate you on the fantastic results. Saving Changes...
Suneel Kumar NadellaDirector (Self Employed)| Manasai Services Pvt Ltd (Self Employed)Solihull, West Midlands, United Kingdom
Nov 04, 2019 4:18 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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In most cases, I would not want a team to operate like a F1 team or commando team although we can study what they do that makes them so good at their jobs. They involve extreme levels of risk, extreme cost, and low levels of resource utilization. People normally can’t do those jobs very long due to the stresses involved and the consequences of when things go wrong.
Both types of teams work in an extremely dangerous environments where vulnerable people are working very close to high levels of hazardous energy, in an extremely high stress environment where very bad accidents happen very quickly. It is extremely expensive as all the equipment involved is very much purpose built, and a lot of intense training is required to perform their tasks precisely and reflexively. They say that the training ammunition budget for SEAL Team 6 is larger than for the whole US Marine Corps, and F1 teams arrive at the tracks with small cities packed into large trucks.
When those teams executes their tasks, each person has a very specific job that they have drilled for to reach perfection. They may have to improvise when things go wrong, but that is where the danger increases exponentially. With the massive costs and complexities involved, those teams are also used for very specific purposes. You could be Left Rear Tire Man #1 or Guy Who Busts the Door Down and that is your whole job for a mission. That's like having a specialist on the project team for a year, that only performs their job for a week.
I would use endurance auto racing teams or more general purpose military squads as a better example. They still do a lot of training for their roles, but there is more cross-training and versatility. They also are not constantly on the razors edge of disaster which means fewer risks become issues and the longevity of teams is much better. As we say in endurance racing: “To finish first, first you must finish.” so risk management involves a lot more mitigation and avoidance rather than primarily acceptance and "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead". We still plan and practice fairly intensely and endure a lot of stress during critical times, but our primary concern is that everyone goes home safely at the end of the day. That's a much more sustainable project team model if your people aren't expendable.
Thank you Mr.Luis. But trust me, it was hard and we all were persistent in our approach. More than myself, my team was exemplary in standing by some of risk-taking proposals or ideas they have come with and then coping with learning demands. Sometimes we all felt that we are pushing ourselves hard, but it was worth in the end. I felt in the end that was an enriching experience for me as a manager to create such high performing team. I learnt quite a lot from that 10 years journey both from Client Management perspective as well as internal organisation management. I started seeing some gaps recently due to the vast amount of unstructured data and management styles that are leading to confusion among this generation workforce. Once again thank you for creating a forum and I learnt some more additional things from the discussion forum. Saving Changes...
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Good thoughts in this discussion.
Some perspectives:
I was thinking about tribal leadership (Logan) with its 5 levels of performance. In the highest level, the tribe/team does not worry about themselves but about the task/project at hand. And if the task is done, they might fall back. So team performance is depending on the situation in time. Sport teams are preparing for a specific event (e.g. Olympics), and they will not be performing before or after that.
Another example for performing teams are firefighters. They are trained and prepared for many situations, but when the fire comes, they have to be adaptive to the situation. Certainly includes both command and control as well as self-organizing (so are these mutually exclusive?). There are 1.3 million firefighters in Germany, 95% of which are volunteers (60% or 800k in US). They normally do a great job, because they share a meaningful purpose.
Think one of the most important responsibilities of a project manager is to build and maintain the team. It starts with understanding which capabilities you need (both technical and behavioral), select the suitable people, convey a purpose/vision and develop trust (which is sometimes called team building). And this is done during the project, as you will have attrition and changing needs. In some projects I spent 20% on these activities.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Nov 05, 2019 8:57 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Thomas
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
I really liked the firefighters example and the tip: "They normally do a great job, because they share a meaningful purpose"
I subscribe: "Think one of the most important responsibilities of a project manager is to build and maintain the team. It starts with understanding what capabilities you need (both technical and behavioral), select the appropriate people, convey a purpose / vision and develop trust (which is sometimes called team building) "
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Scott AmblerConsulting Methodologist| Ambysoft Inc.Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Nov 04, 2019 5:25 AM
Replying to Tarik Chougua
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Hi,
As those teams you mentioned, I would suggest Training and Practicing. But as a group. Think of group trainings like Team Building, etc..
Luis, good point. It takes time for a team to learn how to trust each other and work together well. One of the drawbacks of the strategy of forming a team for a project then disbanding it once the project is complete is that you lose the benefits to be derived from a gelled team.
Worse yet, you motivate people to not invest time in building relationships with their co-workers. This reduces the overall effectiveness of the team. Yesterday at PMO Symposium I was in a discussion with a few PMO leaders and we were discussing various issues they are facing back at work. A couple of people talked about how their organizations treated contractor PMs very differently than their full time employees (FTEs). They made it pretty clear that the contractors weren't being included in strategy discussions, the sharings of learnings within the PMO, and other important things. I was shocked that they weren't treating the contractors as full team members.
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3 replies by Luis Branco, Scott Ambler, and Thomas Walenta
Nov 05, 2019 8:07 AM
Thomas Walenta
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Yes, a team purpose is perceived differently by FTEs, contractors and even part timers.
Given that the gig economy reaches 40% of the workforce this has a tremendous impact on building teams.
Gig workers are concerned about their profits first, part timers about their time commitment.
Besides affecting teams, it limits organizations in building knowledge assets. Working in partnership networks mitigates this. But gig workers are no reliable partners.
Nov 06, 2019 3:47 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Scott
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
We absolutely agree on: "It takes time for a team to learn how to trust each other and work together well"
As Project Managers and teams are outsourced, how do you achieve high performance?
How should these professionals be trained and developed to perform well as teams?
Who should support this investment in training? (the project?)
It's really worrying: "They made it pretty clear that the contractors weren't being included in strategy discussions, the sharings of learning within the PMO, and other important things. I was shocked that they weren't treating the contractors as full team members. "
How can this situation be overcome?
Nov 06, 2019 5:16 AM
Scott Ambler
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When entire teams are outsourced, including the manager/leader, then you need to rely on that team to be effective. That navy seal team is no longer yours, they're simply a team of mercenaries whom you are hiring to do a job. So whatever organization is offering those mercenaries to you is responsible for helping them to become effective. The onus is on you to be sufficiently competent to hire, direct, and monitor that team. And part of their overhead, which you pay for, is the other organization will find ways to enable the team to learn and improve over time. Maybe that team has been assigned to your organization to learn a new set of skills as they get the job done for you. That expertise that you're hiring them for? Someone else paid for them to gain that expertise. The expertise that the next organization is going to pay them for having? You'll pay for that on their current gig with you. The implication is that even though you'll pay for it, you'll only benefit from that team's improvements for as long as you outsource to them. The minute you let them move on you lose that expertise, and you'll likely have paid a premium for it because of the outsourcing relationship.
Short-term strategies, such as outsourcing to another organization for their "gig team" or contracting people to work as "gig workers" is a short-term strategy that provides you with short-term benefits. This is fine as it gets the immediate job done and doesn't leave you with FTEs that you are then responsible for. BUT, any improvements or learnings that those people accrued while working for you go out the door when they do.
Implications:
1. If you want to gain the long-term benefits of investing in people's learnings then you need to keep those people around long term. The "gig mindset" pretty much prevents that if the people leave after a gig is done.
2. If you want to gain the long-term benefits of a team's learnings then you need to keep that team together long term. The "classic project mindset" where a team disbands at the end of a project pretty much prevents that.
3. If you decide to keep a gig worker or a gig team on for the next gig, then the next gig, then the next gig,... you've effectively hired very expensive people full time. This isn't this cost effective. Furthermore, in some countries, such as the US, it's not really a viable options as there are time limits on how long you can keep contractors on.
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Scott AmblerConsulting Methodologist| Ambysoft Inc.Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Nov 04, 2019 9:19 AM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Dear Mr Luis, your observation is very pertinent because both teams achieve high levels of performance, however the training mode is very different.
1 - I consider the Formula 1 tire change team to be an operations team that relentlessly trains the same function, and where the need to react to change is low, the operation is always the same the risks are mostly known. I think the key to performance is the coordination of the members and their consistency.
2 - A team of seals, has a completely different training, because it is an agile team, each mission ("project") is unique, their training is tireless both mentally and physically, but always full of unknown variables, they are prepared for unknown risks, are self managed teams that although there is a hierarchy or ranks and functions assigned to each element, due to its versatility, the loss of an element does should not affect the team's functioning and performance. In their training the term team or family is synonymous because the priority is mutual support, the basis of success is the team is a matter of life and death so the team development reaches the extreme of mixing personal relationships with professionals, otherwise the spirit of group and mutual help will never reach such high levels in any company.
The training component is so important as the work is for it self this
is rarely achieved in other common workplaces.
Finally a very important part that contributes to the success of these teams is the concept of discipline that is rooted in their minds and actions, which allows the coordination of their actions to reach levels difficult to reach in common workplaces.
A few thoughts:
1. The pit crew team trains tirelessly (punny) and focuses on experimenting with new ways of working (WoW) in order to shave milliseconds off of very repetitive tasks. The learning from that is that its important to invest in enabling teams to experiment with improving their WoW. Pit crews also stay together for years, they're typically not organized as a short-term project team for the Indy 500.
2. Navy seal teams take the best of the best from the rest of the US military. They then train relentlessly for the occasional high-pressure engagement. They also cross train and are generalizing specialists. Everyone has one or more specialities and is competent at other aspects of the job, and they're always trying to get better. So the US Navy makes a huge investment in these people over the long term, and they keep these teams together for a long time.
3. It's interesting that the examples of "project teams" that you bring up are actually long-standing teams in practice, not short-term project teams.
4. We could argue that projects (hunt down this bad guy, win this car race) are being brought to these long-standing teams. This is a very common pattern that I see a lot of in organizations that are well down the agile transformation path.
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2 replies by Luis Branco and Scott Ambler
Nov 06, 2019 3:54 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Scott
Very interesting these thoughts of yours
Thanks for sharing
Do we agree that high performance is achieved through training and continuous improvement and is it a medium to long term process?
How can we achieve this (high performances) from outsourced teams and project managers?
Nov 06, 2019 5:23 AM
Scott Ambler
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There are several ways to achieve team performance, and certainly training and continuous improvement are two of them.
You can achieve this in outsourced teams, or with contractors, using similar strategies. If you bring these gig workers into your org and take responsibility for them during the period they work for you, then you can choose to include them in any skills improvement efforts. Of course you're limited to what is allowed within the countries you operate in. Many countries have employment laws that force you to treat contractors/gig workers differently than FTEs and this often hampers your ability to support their learning efforts.
A common strategy is to put into the contract mechanisms to invest in these sorts of people. For example, if you want to provide training for a team that is composed partly of contract/outsource people and partly of FTEs, then the contracting companies may need to pay for their share of the training budget or not charge you for their people's time while on training.