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Avinash Gopal Quatre Bornes, Mauritius
Hi,
I am trying to have a task that will extend throughout the duration of other tasks but without entering the actual duration for that particular task.

Example : a team lead needs to supervise the development through out the project.
the task are as follows :
Task 1 :Start of project Milestone : Start Day 1 . Duration :0
Task 2 :Development : Start Day 1, Duration : 5 Days, Predecessor : Task 1
Task Task 3 : Team Lead : Start Day 1, duration X,Predecessor Task 2 (Finish to Finish Dependency)

Normally to make the task 3 start on the same day as task 2, I could make task 3 dependent on the same milestone as task 2. Or i could link them both with a start to start dependency. In both cases, the duration is not automatically calculated.

In the example above, the duration of task 3 should have been ideally been calcultated to 5 days..

Is that feasible in msProject 2003?

Regards,
Avinash
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Digvijay Singh Project Manager| Mastek Limited Pune, India
I don't agree to the point that both tasks should have same duration in the example you have mentioned, the reason is :
(1) If TASK 3 has finish to finish dependency with TASK2 as you have mentioned in your example, it doesn't necessary that TASK3 should start with TASK2.
TASK3 with 1,2,3,4,5 duration can satisfy this FF dependency with TASK2.
(2) Similary TASK3 with Start to Start can enforce to start on same day with TASK2 but may finish in 1,2,3,4,5 or more days.

Your question is interesting one, and asking to apply both FF and SS dependency for the same predecessor, MS Project 2003 doesn't allow to have 2 distinct dependency with the same predecessor.

The research is still on.....
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Avinash Gopal Quatre Bornes, Mauritius
Its not a blocking issue. I can still set the FF dependency of task 3(team lead) to task2 and then set the duration manually for task 3 to cover the whole of task2(dev).

If a task could have both a FF and SS dependency on another task, the manual entry for the duration would not be necessary and that task would behave like a summary task.
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Digvijay Singh Project Manager| Mastek Limited Pune, India
This is not available directly in project 2003, not sure if something can be done using VBA programming.

Please let me know in case you find something more on this.

Thanks,
DJ
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Peter Wright Programme Manager| BAE Systems Southport, Merseyside, United Kingdom
Avinash,

What you seem to be explaining is that you want Task 3 to equal(=) the time-scales/duration of the other tasks. This is the basics of a rolled up task, so Task 3 sits above task 1 and 2 and you indent them below Task 3.

The duration will uopdate then automatically. Your only other option if you wanted to show a task flow (left to Right, top to Bottom ) is as Digvijay has mentioned, to insert a script into Project. Something I have not done but have not also had the need as each actual task that is needed to be completed should have it's own duration. Hence my belief you are really after a rolled up task.

If you are trying to show that there is team leader activity through Task 1 and 2 needed then this should be entered as a resource and % set against that resource.

Hope this helps,
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Darren Kosa Planning & Controls Contractor Hampshire, United Kingdom
Hi Avinash,

Do you just want to use Task 3 as a hammock task? If so it is possible to do this in MS Project 2k3.

See Microsoft knowledge base article 141733

How to build a hammock task

Be aware that the task type needs to be Fixed Units or Fixed Work, it won’t work with Fixed Duration.

Regards,

Darren
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Digvijay Singh Project Manager| Mastek Limited Pune, India
Thanks Darren,

This is really something new I have learned today. I tried that, it works without any dependnecy, I thought that is the only way to link two tasks.

Thanks again.
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Avinash Gopal Quatre Bornes, Mauritius
Thanks Darren! Exactly what I was looking for!
Kind Regards

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