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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
"Map is not territory"
What does this concept mean for you?
How can we apply this concept to the relationship between different stakeholders (with particular reference to project team members?)
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
There's always a map of the territory, but not always territory on a map.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Nov 21, 2019 4:54 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Sante
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

We absolutely agree with: "There's always a map of the territory, but not always territory on a map"

And here comes the question :-):
How can we apply this concept to the relationship between different stakeholders (with particular reference to project team members?)
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Deepesh Rammoorthy ICT Project Manager ( PMP®AgilePM®Certified ScrumMaster® (CSM®))| Australian Red Cross Blood Service Tarneit, Vic, Australia
My humble interpretation :-

A map is an outline of all possible stakeholders who are likely to directly or indirectly influence or are likely to be directly or indirectly affected by the outcome of your project but the territory is a group of stakeholders that are involved with delivering the day-to-day or specific outcomes for the project e.g the Project Team or key stakeholders.

You need to be aware of the Map at a high level or regions in the Map should be aware of what you are delivering . But when it comes to territory you must know it at the back of your hand.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Nov 21, 2019 4:59 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Deepesh
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

Interesting how you interpret the concept

I would like to better understand what you mean by: "You need to be aware of the Map at a high level or regions in the Map should be aware of what you are delivering. But when it comes to the territory you must know it at the back of your hand "
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 20, 2019 4:34 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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There's always a map of the territory, but not always territory on a map.
Dear Sante
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

We absolutely agree with: "There's always a map of the territory, but not always territory on a map"

And here comes the question :-):
How can we apply this concept to the relationship between different stakeholders (with particular reference to project team members?)
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Nov 21, 2019 7:49 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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While we are in the land of metaphors, let me continue: if we posses a working compass, the wind is blowing in our direction more than against us, and the crew is not having mutanous thoughts against the captain, we will be in a good position :-)
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 20, 2019 10:29 PM
Replying to Deepesh Rammoorthy
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My humble interpretation :-

A map is an outline of all possible stakeholders who are likely to directly or indirectly influence or are likely to be directly or indirectly affected by the outcome of your project but the territory is a group of stakeholders that are involved with delivering the day-to-day or specific outcomes for the project e.g the Project Team or key stakeholders.

You need to be aware of the Map at a high level or regions in the Map should be aware of what you are delivering . But when it comes to territory you must know it at the back of your hand.
Dear Deepesh
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

Interesting how you interpret the concept

I would like to better understand what you mean by: "You need to be aware of the Map at a high level or regions in the Map should be aware of what you are delivering. But when it comes to the territory you must know it at the back of your hand "
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Karl Twort Senior Project Manager| Fresh Egg United Kingdom
I hadn't heard this phrase, but I have since researched and do like the concept.

For me, it makes absolute sense. I think a good comparison would be the difference between a Scope Document and a Functional or Technical specification.

The Scope document would be representative of the Map, whilst the more detailed Functional or Technical spec would be the territory.

A nice post Luis, giving me "food for thought"
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Nov 21, 2019 6:07 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Karl
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

Interesting the perspective you had on the issue
Only enriched this exchange of opinions

What wrote "giving me" food for thought "" is a comment that touched me deeply
I am very grateful
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 21, 2019 5:10 AM
Replying to Karl Twort
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I hadn't heard this phrase, but I have since researched and do like the concept.

For me, it makes absolute sense. I think a good comparison would be the difference between a Scope Document and a Functional or Technical specification.

The Scope document would be representative of the Map, whilst the more detailed Functional or Technical spec would be the territory.

A nice post Luis, giving me "food for thought"
Dear Karl
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

Interesting the perspective you had on the issue
Only enriched this exchange of opinions

What wrote "giving me" food for thought "" is a comment that touched me deeply
I am very grateful
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Nov 21, 2019 4:54 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Sante
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

We absolutely agree with: "There's always a map of the territory, but not always territory on a map"

And here comes the question :-):
How can we apply this concept to the relationship between different stakeholders (with particular reference to project team members?)
While we are in the land of metaphors, let me continue: if we posses a working compass, the wind is blowing in our direction more than against us, and the crew is not having mutanous thoughts against the captain, we will be in a good position :-)
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Nov 22, 2019 9:21 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Sante
I really liked this metaphor
Thanks for sharing

How do you think it can be applied to the relationship between different stakeholders (with particular reference to project team members?)
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Nov 21, 2019 7:49 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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While we are in the land of metaphors, let me continue: if we posses a working compass, the wind is blowing in our direction more than against us, and the crew is not having mutanous thoughts against the captain, we will be in a good position :-)
Dear Sante
I really liked this metaphor
Thanks for sharing

How do you think it can be applied to the relationship between different stakeholders (with particular reference to project team members?)
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