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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
EBMgt is a framework established by Scrum.org - Although it was established for software organizations, I believe it applies to all types of organizations.

What's your thoughts on this Framework ?
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Nov 24, 2019 3:29 PM
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Sergio

Your feedback is spot on and you also said a Golden Sentence:

“The importance of making people not feel you are the KPI Police” because if they felt so, you might end up gathering inaccurate information.

From your experience, How do you think one could ensure to maintain a team spirit while gathering evidence and data ?

RK
That´s the one millon (or more) question...jejejeje. That´s not new. Is the "problem" or "the key" that discinplines like quality try to address from years ago. I will write what works for me. I always try to demostrate to the people that works with me that "you will be more rich with this than without this" where reach is not a synonim of more money only. But on the top of that what I do is to demostrate that I believe on that. Just in case I do not believe on that I demostrate that we can not be happy with everything we do but some things must to be made. In the case of evidence management, mainly if you use it to help in agile environments implementation, that is easy to do because it easy to demostrate that evidence management help to follow one of the pillars of agile: work smarter, not harder.
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Nov 24, 2019 10:56 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Work Smarter, not Harder - Very True. If you work hard to deliver fast but deliver no value then it’s pointless.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 24, 2019 4:42 PM
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That´s the one millon (or more) question...jejejeje. That´s not new. Is the "problem" or "the key" that discinplines like quality try to address from years ago. I will write what works for me. I always try to demostrate to the people that works with me that "you will be more rich with this than without this" where reach is not a synonim of more money only. But on the top of that what I do is to demostrate that I believe on that. Just in case I do not believe on that I demostrate that we can not be happy with everything we do but some things must to be made. In the case of evidence management, mainly if you use it to help in agile environments implementation, that is easy to do because it easy to demostrate that evidence management help to follow one of the pillars of agile: work smarter, not harder.
Work Smarter, not Harder - Very True. If you work hard to deliver fast but deliver no value then it’s pointless.
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Steve Ratkaj Ontario, Canada
Some interesting reading from 2015 when the Liberal government took power...

https://jmurray.liberal.ca/news-nouvelles/...decisionmaking/
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Nov 25, 2019 1:28 PM
Rami Kaibni
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It is indeed interesting - Thanks for sharing Steve. Right in BC.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 25, 2019 9:45 AM
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Some interesting reading from 2015 when the Liberal government took power...

https://jmurray.liberal.ca/news-nouvelles/...decisionmaking/
It is indeed interesting - Thanks for sharing Steve. Right in BC.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Evidence-based management would be a lot easier if more of our data was structured. (Open Data initiatives are a step in the right direction.)

For example, when I ask the Finance department for an expense report, I usually get a text file of a "printed report" with multi-lined data elements and variable spacing. Do I have the data? Yes. Can I use it for decisions? Not without a lot of work.
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Nov 26, 2019 11:14 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Stephane

I agree and that’s why it is best to establish data protocols from the outset of the project, programs or portfolios. This is of utmost important.

RK
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 26, 2019 11:09 AM
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Evidence-based management would be a lot easier if more of our data was structured. (Open Data initiatives are a step in the right direction.)

For example, when I ask the Finance department for an expense report, I usually get a text file of a "printed report" with multi-lined data elements and variable spacing. Do I have the data? Yes. Can I use it for decisions? Not without a lot of work.
Stephane

I agree and that’s why it is best to establish data protocols from the outset of the project, programs or portfolios. This is of utmost important.

RK
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1 reply by Keith Novak
Nov 26, 2019 8:06 PM
Keith Novak
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I completely agree. One of the major mistakes I've seen in digital transformation efforts is one team off in their isolated silo developing some information management system without giving any thought to how others would use that information.

Interfaces are where systems become more than the sum of the parts, so when people give no thought to the interfaces until the individual pieces are far along, either they have to go do a bunch of rework, or the systems do a very poor job of sharing data without some additional expensive conversion process.
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
Nov 26, 2019 11:14 AM
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Stephane

I agree and that’s why it is best to establish data protocols from the outset of the project, programs or portfolios. This is of utmost important.

RK
I completely agree. One of the major mistakes I've seen in digital transformation efforts is one team off in their isolated silo developing some information management system without giving any thought to how others would use that information.

Interfaces are where systems become more than the sum of the parts, so when people give no thought to the interfaces until the individual pieces are far along, either they have to go do a bunch of rework, or the systems do a very poor job of sharing data without some additional expensive conversion process.
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2 replies by Rami Kaibni and Steve Ratkaj
Nov 27, 2019 1:04 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Keith

Totally agree and care should be given to “Continuous Integration” as it is of utmost importance.

RK
Nov 27, 2019 7:13 AM
Steve Ratkaj
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Two words - Systems thinking. :)
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 26, 2019 8:06 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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I completely agree. One of the major mistakes I've seen in digital transformation efforts is one team off in their isolated silo developing some information management system without giving any thought to how others would use that information.

Interfaces are where systems become more than the sum of the parts, so when people give no thought to the interfaces until the individual pieces are far along, either they have to go do a bunch of rework, or the systems do a very poor job of sharing data without some additional expensive conversion process.
Keith

Totally agree and care should be given to “Continuous Integration” as it is of utmost importance.

RK
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Steve Ratkaj Ontario, Canada
Nov 26, 2019 8:06 PM
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I completely agree. One of the major mistakes I've seen in digital transformation efforts is one team off in their isolated silo developing some information management system without giving any thought to how others would use that information.

Interfaces are where systems become more than the sum of the parts, so when people give no thought to the interfaces until the individual pieces are far along, either they have to go do a bunch of rework, or the systems do a very poor job of sharing data without some additional expensive conversion process.
Two words - Systems thinking. :)
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 27, 2019 11:03 AM
Rami Kaibni
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It’s a bit more than that. Just a tiny bit :-)
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 27, 2019 7:13 AM
Replying to Steve Ratkaj
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Two words - Systems thinking. :)
It’s a bit more than that. Just a tiny bit :-)
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