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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
I had the opportunity to talk to some people about the daily meeting

Some of them considered that this practice creates a lot of pressure

What is your opinion about this practice?
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Wade Harshman Scrum Master| GDIT Indianapolis, In, United States
There was a similar question not long ago. My opinion is that if daily stand-ups are creating pressure, then the team is missing the point of the meeting. Stand-ups are not daily status reports. Daily status reports are intended to create pressure. Stand-ups are team huddles.

The image of the daily status meeting is the officer standing before Darth Vader, trying to report enough good news that he doesn't get killed. (Darth Vader got results. If you're the person requiring daily stand-up meetings and denigrating low-performers, just accept that you're the villain.)

The image of the stand-up is an American Football team huddling before their next play, or a construction crew discussing their day before work begins. There is pressure, but it comes from the team's goals, not the meeting itself.
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2 replies by Luis Branco
Dec 30, 2019 9:20 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Wade
Your comment before this question is here.

At the time I responded to your comment which is different from what you did today:

"Dear Wade
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

Very interesting your perspective: "They unwittingly initiate the Hawthorne Effect and create the type of pressure that's detrimental to effective standups .."
Dec 30, 2019 9:26 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Wade
Thank you for your comment you made today

Very interesting what he wrote: "The image of the daily status meeting is the officer standing before Darth Vader, trying to report enough good news that he doesn't get killed. (Darth Vader got results."

And for clarification: "The image of the stand-up is an American Football team huddling before their next play, or a construction crew discussing their day before work begins. There is pressure, but it comes from the team's goals, not the meeting itself . "
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 29, 2019 10:34 PM
Replying to Adrian Carlogea
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When you are asked each day what you have accomplished since the last meeting (which was the previous working day) it is almost impossible not to feel at least a little bit of pressure even when the intent of the meeting is not to put pressure.

When I used to work as developer on a Scrum team, myself and the other developers were no longer focusing on doing a good job but our main focus was to do something during the day so that we can report good progress the next day.

I think because of the daily meeting the software ended up being full of bugs and it took much longer to complete things even if we were reporting good progress at each meeting. It was a fake progress, we were just under pressure.

I remember that a few days before a release the software still had critical defects that were fixed by the lead developer somehow I think by bypassing the Scrum ceremonies and rules. Scrum and the daily meeting were the big impediment that the team had to struggle each day.

Honestly I have never heard any developer to love Scrum (Agile) and the daily meetings. Only the people who don't have to suffer because of these things love Agile and the daily meeting, especially the Managers as they can use it for evaluating their staff and the PMs as they can use it for reporting purposes.
Dear Adrian
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

Interesting what you wrote about what team members think: "Honestly I have never heard of any developer to love Scrum (Agile) and the daily meetings"

Interesting what you wrote about managers and project managers: "Only the people who don't have to suffer because of these things love Agile and the daily meeting"

Introduced this practice, that of the daily meeting, is it sustainable in the medium and long term?
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 30, 2019 12:16 AM
Replying to Riyadh Salih
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Dear Luis I meant by the other meeting when you have an issue to discuss not every day the every day is just short review in a toolbox meeting.
Dear Riyadh
Thank you for your opinion
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 30, 2019 7:46 AM
Replying to Wade Harshman
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There was a similar question not long ago. My opinion is that if daily stand-ups are creating pressure, then the team is missing the point of the meeting. Stand-ups are not daily status reports. Daily status reports are intended to create pressure. Stand-ups are team huddles.

The image of the daily status meeting is the officer standing before Darth Vader, trying to report enough good news that he doesn't get killed. (Darth Vader got results. If you're the person requiring daily stand-up meetings and denigrating low-performers, just accept that you're the villain.)

The image of the stand-up is an American Football team huddling before their next play, or a construction crew discussing their day before work begins. There is pressure, but it comes from the team's goals, not the meeting itself.
Dear Wade
Your comment before this question is here.

At the time I responded to your comment which is different from what you did today:

"Dear Wade
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.

Very interesting your perspective: "They unwittingly initiate the Hawthorne Effect and create the type of pressure that's detrimental to effective standups .."
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 30, 2019 7:46 AM
Replying to Wade Harshman
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There was a similar question not long ago. My opinion is that if daily stand-ups are creating pressure, then the team is missing the point of the meeting. Stand-ups are not daily status reports. Daily status reports are intended to create pressure. Stand-ups are team huddles.

The image of the daily status meeting is the officer standing before Darth Vader, trying to report enough good news that he doesn't get killed. (Darth Vader got results. If you're the person requiring daily stand-up meetings and denigrating low-performers, just accept that you're the villain.)

The image of the stand-up is an American Football team huddling before their next play, or a construction crew discussing their day before work begins. There is pressure, but it comes from the team's goals, not the meeting itself.
Dear Wade
Thank you for your comment you made today

Very interesting what he wrote: "The image of the daily status meeting is the officer standing before Darth Vader, trying to report enough good news that he doesn't get killed. (Darth Vader got results."

And for clarification: "The image of the stand-up is an American Football team huddling before their next play, or a construction crew discussing their day before work begins. There is pressure, but it comes from the team's goals, not the meeting itself . "
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