Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 08, 2019 2:59 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Luis,
I use it very extensively when managing projects. It all boils down to understanding the problem well enough that you can determine the difference between solution approaches to find the best fit.
It doesn't matter whether it is engineering design, training development, office processes, or organizational management. All require tailoring the solution to the problem to find the best fit. Once you have established that architectural level concept of the project, when things don't go as planned, you understand the qualities of the solution necessary to realign the plan to the problem.
One cautionary note is that when you shift from pure engineering to consider people as part of the solution, you must have empathy. People don't respond based purely on the laws of physics. That requires considering not only how the solution addresses the underlying problem, but also how the solution approach impacts individuals contributing to the solution. The ideal technical solution might not be a good fit for the team asked to do the work.
Dear keith
Thanks for your comment
Instead of a problem perspective approach, a solution perspective approach
Very interesting
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What makes design thinking, in your opinion, an innovative approach?
I don't know that I'd consider it necessarily innovative - it is more about creating a deep empathy-based connection to all the potential users of a product, service or result and then using that knowledge with short feedback loops to build good outputs.
Just as most of what is in the Manifesto for Agile Software Development is "common sense" the same might be said about Design Thinking.
Kiron
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Dec 11, 2019 5:30 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Kiron
Thanks for your feedback
If design thinking is considered "common sense" is there any reason not to involve all stakeholders (with particular reference to customers or users) in the design of products and / or services?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 08, 2019 10:23 AM
Replying to Peter Ambrosy
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From my point if view the key advantage of this creativity approach is the user-centric focus to derive solutions and foster idea finding. I use it especially in the UI and mobility domain.
Dear Peter
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 09, 2019 8:10 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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I don't know that I'd consider it necessarily innovative - it is more about creating a deep empathy-based connection to all the potential users of a product, service or result and then using that knowledge with short feedback loops to build good outputs.
Just as most of what is in the Manifesto for Agile Software Development is "common sense" the same might be said about Design Thinking.
Kiron
Dear Kiron
Thanks for your feedback
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As a former product development manager, I do not see this approach fitting well within our organizational construct, as we leave all product design work to industry. I still believe it is very important to be creative in order to solve everyday typical problems, but again the prototyping and customer interface is not what we do.
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Dec 11, 2019 11:50 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Steve
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Do you see any advantages in using this approach (Design Thinking) in product and / or service development?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 11, 2019 7:24 AM
Replying to Steve Ratkaj
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As a former product development manager, I do not see this approach fitting well within our organizational construct, as we leave all product design work to industry. I still believe it is very important to be creative in order to solve everyday typical problems, but again the prototyping and customer interface is not what we do.
Dear Steve
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
Do you see any advantages in using this approach (Design Thinking) in product and / or service development?
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1 reply by Steve Ratkaj
Dec 11, 2019 11:59 AM
Steve Ratkaj
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Yes, as Keith mentioned, this is really systems engineering in a nut shell. Systems/ design engineers are responsible for all facets of product design. Interestingly enough, this includes aspects for safety, maintenance, and repair/ overhaul. I'm sure many of us have come across products in our lives that have left us befuddled with respect to servicing. More often than not in today's hyper-competitive and hyper-cost conscious environment, the bean-counters win, leaving consumers, and those who are responsible for maintenance cursing "who designed this stupid thing". Lol.
Dear Steve
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
Do you see any advantages in using this approach (Design Thinking) in product and / or service development?
Yes, as Keith mentioned, this is really systems engineering in a nut shell. Systems/ design engineers are responsible for all facets of product design. Interestingly enough, this includes aspects for safety, maintenance, and repair/ overhaul. I'm sure many of us have come across products in our lives that have left us befuddled with respect to servicing. More often than not in today's hyper-competitive and hyper-cost conscious environment, the bean-counters win, leaving consumers, and those who are responsible for maintenance cursing "who designed this stupid thing". Lol.
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Dec 11, 2019 1:20 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Steve
Thanks for your feedback
You also made me laugh
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 11, 2019 11:59 AM
Replying to Steve Ratkaj
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Yes, as Keith mentioned, this is really systems engineering in a nut shell. Systems/ design engineers are responsible for all facets of product design. Interestingly enough, this includes aspects for safety, maintenance, and repair/ overhaul. I'm sure many of us have come across products in our lives that have left us befuddled with respect to servicing. More often than not in today's hyper-competitive and hyper-cost conscious environment, the bean-counters win, leaving consumers, and those who are responsible for maintenance cursing "who designed this stupid thing". Lol.
Dear Steve
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Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Dec 08, 2019 1:50 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Reading the principles of Design Thinking, it's a rebranded form of Systems Thinking/ systems engineering. It's a top down approach of first understanding the problem and developing alternate solutions prior to downselecting the preferred approach, elaborating on the solution, validating the solution, and verifying the results.
Keith,
in my understanding design thinking differs from systems thinking in several ways:
- DT is human centric, ST is more an engineering approach to a system
- DT includes looking at solutions being technical viable and economically realistic, ST does not have this limitation
- DT uses prototyping, ST may be not
Both share that there is a problem space and a solution space, but ST could start after the problem is laid out, DT not.
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3 replies by Keith Novak, Luis Branco, and Steve Ratkaj
Dec 12, 2019 4:38 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Thomas
Thank you for your opinion
Could DT and DS merge in product and / or service design?
Dec 12, 2019 8:38 AM
Steve Ratkaj
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I'm not sure if I agree. While working for a large manufacturer of military vehicles, the systems engineering department initiated the process of laying out the vehicle system requirements, and handed those to the design engineering department to make it happen so to speak with detailed designs and production drawings. For those interested in further info on systems engineering, have a look at the link below:
Thomas,
As a systems engineer myself, I see both as the same fundamental concepts. The difference is where we set the boundaries of "the system of interest". In traditional SE, I absolutely agree that it tends to focus on the thing being produced. When you consider systems architecture however, it includes how that system fits with the business. The people aspect are absolutely involved in whether the product level system fits the needs of all stakeholders including the performing organization.
This is where I see the basic principles of SE given different names for different applications. In my own mind PM is really SE but the system of interest is the performing organization itself rather than the product, which is left to the SE or BA.
For some time I have been considering writing an article describing how the basic principles and methods of SE are completely described by the PMBOK, using many of the same but some different (non-engineering) terms. One of these days when I get a bit of free time...
Keith
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 12, 2019 1:58 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Keith,
in my understanding design thinking differs from systems thinking in several ways:
- DT is human centric, ST is more an engineering approach to a system
- DT includes looking at solutions being technical viable and economically realistic, ST does not have this limitation
- DT uses prototyping, ST may be not
Both share that there is a problem space and a solution space, but ST could start after the problem is laid out, DT not.
Dear Thomas
Thank you for your opinion
Could DT and DS merge in product and / or service design? Saving Changes...
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