Deepesh RammoorthyICT Project Manager ( PMP®AgilePM®Certified ScrumMaster® (CSM®))| Australian Red Cross Blood ServiceTarneit, Vic, Australia
Dear All,
Some of you may have achieved the PMI - ACP certification.
Reading on the internet , I found out that :-
1) One of the advantages of PMI-ACP over CSM is that PMI-ACP tends to cover different agile practices like Lean , Kanban, XP, Scrum , DSDM whereas CSM only concentrates on Scrum.
2) PMI-ACP equips the PM to lead projects in any field - eg construction or manufacturing as opposed to purely managing Software related projects as a CSM .
What are your thoughts regarding PMI-ACP? and is it worth pursuing ? Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 13, 2019 12:38 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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What was nice is that they give you the general project management experience, right off the bat, because you have a PMP. I also had taken enough agile webinars here that it covered the 21 hours of agile education. All I had to do was submit my 1,800 hours of agile experience.
That's interesting. At the time when I took the exam, I had to fill in the Agile Experience just like I did for the PMP Exam. I don't recall they took anything off the bat ... They must be making things easier after inspection and adaption ... Interesting Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I had to fill in the Agile experience. It's only the general project management that they give you.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 13, 2019 3:48 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Stephane -
I grew up in La Belle Province and that word meant something slightly different there :-)
Kiron
Kiron, that's why I hmmmm'ed :D Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Dec 13, 2019 3:48 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Stephane -
I grew up in La Belle Province and that word meant something slightly different there :-)
Kiron
Just like "break a leg!" has a specific meaning in the theater industry, so does "merde!" Saving Changes...
Eric EvansSenior Project Manager | Savannah River Nuclear SolutionsAugusta, Ga, United States
I have a question. I’ve read all the comments on ACP. I have completed the 21 hour requirement, have my PMP and had started the study preparation using Mike Griffith’s book. In my current PM position for an EPC firm in the nuclear industry, do you think having the ACP would help in a fully entrenched waterfall environment? My ACP pursuit was primarily for marketability purposes.
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3 replies by Kiron Bondale, Rami Kaibni, and Sergio Luis Conte
Dec 22, 2019 2:20 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Eric -
An agile mindset applies to all types of work and certain agile practices may be portable to your industry but before going for the ACP you will need sufficient hands-on valid agile experience which you may not get in a purely waterfall environment.
Kiron
Dec 23, 2019 3:42 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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When I take a certification I take it from the same reason than you. I had the opportunity to work in the same domain than you and I applied agile approach by applying some methods and some practices. Agile is not about a method. But, the ACP is method oriented and software oriented then perhaps it could help to take some self trainning on that and find opportunities to apply it.
Dec 23, 2019 5:56 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Eric
I certainly agree with Kiron. To be honest, not sure that doing professional development for the marketability purposes will help. Yes, it might get you an interview but what then ? Experience is another major factor in proving your marketability is sound.
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