Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
My proposal is these 5 principles for teamwork
- Respect
- Union
- Empathy
- Tolerance
- Synergy
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Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
Luis; with all due respect I don't see these as princples for team work.
I agree that these are critical to maximize teamwork. However, these are not absolute. The functionality of a team will improve as respect, union, empathy, tolerance and synergy increases however teamwork is not reliant on fully achieving each.
That being said, in order to function a team must have a common goal and motivation to achieve that goal. This is the fundamental basis of teamwork - no goal, no need for a team! Respect, union, empathy, tolerance and synergy gets you nothing unless it is focused on a result.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Dec 27, 2019 11:57 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for your opinion
Let's imagine the following scenario: A goal is assigned to a set of people
What, in your opinion, are the principles that have to be the basis for these people to achieve this goal as a team?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 27, 2019 11:06 AM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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Luis; with all due respect I don't see these as princples for team work.
I agree that these are critical to maximize teamwork. However, these are not absolute. The functionality of a team will improve as respect, union, empathy, tolerance and synergy increases however teamwork is not reliant on fully achieving each.
That being said, in order to function a team must have a common goal and motivation to achieve that goal. This is the fundamental basis of teamwork - no goal, no need for a team! Respect, union, empathy, tolerance and synergy gets you nothing unless it is focused on a result.
Dear Peter
Thank you for your opinion
Let's imagine the following scenario: A goal is assigned to a set of people
What, in your opinion, are the principles that have to be the basis for these people to achieve this goal as a team? Saving Changes...
Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
I have a slightly different take. I think in terms of assigning a team to a goal - the goal comes first, the goal is the reason for, the essence of, a team.
A team is a group of people with a common goal otherwise its just a group of people.
Respect,Union, Empathy, Tolerance and Synergy are the tools the team uses to effectively achieve that goal resulting in 'teamwork'. The greater the R, U, E, T and S the more effective the team becomes.The team leader's job is to maximize R, U, E, T and S.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Dec 27, 2019 1:40 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thank you for your opinion
We can add a principle beyond what I have proposed:
- Clearly defined objectives (SMART)
What do you think of the idea?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 27, 2019 1:25 PM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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I have a slightly different take. I think in terms of assigning a team to a goal - the goal comes first, the goal is the reason for, the essence of, a team.
A team is a group of people with a common goal otherwise its just a group of people.
Respect,Union, Empathy, Tolerance and Synergy are the tools the team uses to effectively achieve that goal resulting in 'teamwork'. The greater the R, U, E, T and S the more effective the team becomes.The team leader's job is to maximize R, U, E, T and S.
Dear Peter
Thank you for your opinion
We can add a principle beyond what I have proposed:
- Clearly defined objectives (SMART)
What do you think of the idea? Saving Changes...
Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
The fundamental requirements for team success (I'm not ready to assign the term "principle" depending how its defined)
Common goal
Leadership
your R, U, E T and S
However, recognizing this as a international forum with numerous cultures and conventions I would suggest that the terms be defined. I still see R, U, T, E and S as a function of leadership.
Are we getting closer?
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Dec 28, 2019 8:25 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
What brings us closer is much larger than what drives us away :-)
Let's focus for now on the issue of leadership
The challenge is for teams to be self-managing on the one hand, and on the other to have each person discover their own leader
How can we use these two concepts in teamwork?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 27, 2019 3:59 PM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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The fundamental requirements for team success (I'm not ready to assign the term "principle" depending how its defined)
Common goal
Leadership
your R, U, E T and S
However, recognizing this as a international forum with numerous cultures and conventions I would suggest that the terms be defined. I still see R, U, T, E and S as a function of leadership.
Are we getting closer?
Dear Peter
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
What brings us closer is much larger than what drives us away :-)
Let's focus for now on the issue of leadership
The challenge is for teams to be self-managing on the one hand, and on the other to have each person discover their own leader
How can we use these two concepts in teamwork? Saving Changes...
Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
Groups of individuals are assembled to achieve a goal, a deliverable. The group only becomes a 'team' once they recognize that they have to work together to effectively achieve that deliverable and organize themselves accordingly. Until that happens they remain a group of individuals.
So, there are two primary objectives: 1) become a team, and 2) deliver the intended product. There is a lot of focus on the second objective and little on the first.
Two scenarios: 1) a designated experienced team leader is put in place to lead the individuals towards 'teammanship', or 2) the group is trained in the craft of 'teammanship' as a first step. Scenario 1) is the most common and provides more comfort to upper management. Scenario 2) is most likely more effective in the long run however may have a slower start on the deliverable. Scenario 2) also fits in with the concept of self-management and 'discovered leader'.
How do we get there? By recognizing the importance and nuances of working as a team and training people on teamwork concepts.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Dec 28, 2019 11:08 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Interesting your point of view
Thanks for sharing
What matters to top management is that teams deliver value on time and within budgeted cost
It would be interesting for teams to elect one of the members to be their leader for a certain period
Once this predefined period is over, leadership will change.
It would be provided by another team member.
In other words, the leadership function is performed by all team members in a rotating manner.
The 5 principles of teamwork should be respected and safeguarded by all team members (including those who momentarily play the role of leader)
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 28, 2019 10:34 AM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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Groups of individuals are assembled to achieve a goal, a deliverable. The group only becomes a 'team' once they recognize that they have to work together to effectively achieve that deliverable and organize themselves accordingly. Until that happens they remain a group of individuals.
So, there are two primary objectives: 1) become a team, and 2) deliver the intended product. There is a lot of focus on the second objective and little on the first.
Two scenarios: 1) a designated experienced team leader is put in place to lead the individuals towards 'teammanship', or 2) the group is trained in the craft of 'teammanship' as a first step. Scenario 1) is the most common and provides more comfort to upper management. Scenario 2) is most likely more effective in the long run however may have a slower start on the deliverable. Scenario 2) also fits in with the concept of self-management and 'discovered leader'.
How do we get there? By recognizing the importance and nuances of working as a team and training people on teamwork concepts.
Dear Peter
Interesting your point of view
Thanks for sharing
What matters to top management is that teams deliver value on time and within budgeted cost
It would be interesting for teams to elect one of the members to be their leader for a certain period
Once this predefined period is over, leadership will change.
It would be provided by another team member.
In other words, the leadership function is performed by all team members in a rotating manner.
The 5 principles of teamwork should be respected and safeguarded by all team members (including those who momentarily play the role of leader)
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1 reply by Adrian Carlogea
Dec 28, 2019 4:40 PM
Adrian Carlogea
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I don't think this a good idea. I have heard of rotating the Scrum Master at each sprint but the SM, at least in theory, is not supposed to be a leader but just a facilitator or coordinator.
What I've seen in practice is that no matter who is the formal leader the de factor leader becomes the person that has most knowledge on the overall solution. Sometimes conflicts may arise if the formal leader does not agree with the de factor leader.
In addition many teams are cross-functional and temporary in nature and as such you can only have leaders per function and no overall leader. In this case you need a facilitator or coordinator to manage the communication between the functional leaders. However this facilitator in my opinion is not a real leader as he does not make decisions but just facilitates the decision making process.
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Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
Getting a bit too Utopian for me. I see significant risk to the final deliverable. May encourage team politics, suffer weak leaders, frustration, conflict, inconsistencies in approach will lead to quality issues. In reality the strongest leader will retain the position and the rotating leaders will become leaders in name only. Remember that the ultimate objective is to deliver the product not training in team craftsmanship Although as stated before team training is a key component. I would go as far as to say "Not under my watch!'
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Dec 30, 2019 9:32 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Peter
Thanks for your comment
I fully understand what you are telling me
Considers utopia self-managing teams where leadership is shared, is that it? (correct me if I'm wrong)