Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 20, 2019 3:15 PM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Self-fulfilling prophecy could be linked back to earlier discussions on mindset and attitude. That is if you go into a project fully aware of all the known risks but with a mindset of murphy's law of what can go wrong will go wrong then you avoid the pitfall of dropping into a loop of a self-fulfilling prophecy. However if do not meet problems head on and try to avoid them as if they do not exist and somehow will magically "go away" then you will reach a self-fulfilled prophecy of project failure.
Dear Daire Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
It seemed to me that self-fulfilling prophecy in both situations is negative :-) (Correct me if you are mistaken)
Which one do you use with your teams?
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1 reply by Daire Guiney
Dec 21, 2019 4:27 PM
Daire Guiney
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Continuing on from the theme of Classical Studies, in a lot of Greek tragedies, the hero is forewarned of some great tragedy that will be bestowed upon in the near future by the Oracle of Delphi. Even armed with this knowledge the hero seems be already destined to be on a path that will lead them to their demise regardless of how he or she may try to change the circumstances. The modern day equivalent is regardless of how many boom and busts that we stumble from one to next, humans seem to be destined to repeat the mistakes in a never endless loop of success from failure leading to failure from success and so on. For me having a mindset that is aware of these risks and looks for the tale tail signs at an early stage before they are given a change to develop is an important trait of a project manager
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 21, 2019 11:55 AM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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If you get your assumptions and risks recorded properly, you may have a bunch of self-fulfilling prophecies. But that is kind of the point isn't it?
Dear Sante
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
Is the point just applying Self-fulfilling Prophecy to the risks or the project?
What about the team? Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 21, 2019 11:58 AM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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So Pygmalion had a statue with soft lips, and that is a wish granted? At least he was easy to please.
Dear Sante
Do you find it easy to turn a statue into a person? :-)
Dear Daire Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
It seemed to me that self-fulfilling prophecy in both situations is negative :-) (Correct me if you are mistaken)
Which one do you use with your teams?
Continuing on from the theme of Classical Studies, in a lot of Greek tragedies, the hero is forewarned of some great tragedy that will be bestowed upon in the near future by the Oracle of Delphi. Even armed with this knowledge the hero seems be already destined to be on a path that will lead them to their demise regardless of how he or she may try to change the circumstances. The modern day equivalent is regardless of how many boom and busts that we stumble from one to next, humans seem to be destined to repeat the mistakes in a never endless loop of success from failure leading to failure from success and so on. For me having a mindset that is aware of these risks and looks for the tale tail signs at an early stage before they are given a change to develop is an important trait of a project manager
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2 replies by Luis Branco and Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Dec 21, 2019 7:01 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Spot on Daire.
Dec 22, 2019 5:26 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Daire
Thanks for your comment
Does this prevent us, as project managers, from taking a positive approach about the team and their people or about the project?
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 20, 2019 3:05 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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A good example (as I'm a golfer) is when I tell myself upon seeing a water hazard "I hope I don't end up in the water!". Sure enough, guess where my ball lands...
As a project manager or team member, self-fulfilling prophecies happen when we are concerned about a negative risk and our unconsciously dwelling on it can result in the risk being realized. Sometimes that is just bad luck, but other times it might be that we are behaving in a manner which causes that reality to occur.
Kiron
Interesting, I honestly just learned something new today. I never knew what it exactly means, spot on Kiron.
Luis, thanks for the great question.
RK
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Dec 22, 2019 5:35 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
I am very happy to have brought to our reflection a new theme for you.
I learn a lot from reading what members of this community bring to the discussion, their opinions, and the articles they share.
Continuing on from the theme of Classical Studies, in a lot of Greek tragedies, the hero is forewarned of some great tragedy that will be bestowed upon in the near future by the Oracle of Delphi. Even armed with this knowledge the hero seems be already destined to be on a path that will lead them to their demise regardless of how he or she may try to change the circumstances. The modern day equivalent is regardless of how many boom and busts that we stumble from one to next, humans seem to be destined to repeat the mistakes in a never endless loop of success from failure leading to failure from success and so on. For me having a mindset that is aware of these risks and looks for the tale tail signs at an early stage before they are given a change to develop is an important trait of a project manager
Spot on Daire. Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 21, 2019 3:48 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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No, but I find that many people are statues.
Dear Sante
Thanks for your comment
How about being Pygmalion :-)
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Dec 22, 2019 11:59 AM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Pygmalion? Well, I can certainly relate to him, as I have kissed a few statues in my time.
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dear Andrew
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your question.
The two topics are aligned
In the previous topic, (in the title) I tried to relate the Pygmalion effect to project management, but couldn't make that change.
I think this topic has not been sufficiently debated.
About everything:
- The concept and its origin
- Studies supporting the concept
- Above all the impact we can have on projects and project teams if we apply this concept
These were the only reasons that led me to create a new topic. Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 21, 2019 4:27 PM
Replying to Daire Guiney
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Continuing on from the theme of Classical Studies, in a lot of Greek tragedies, the hero is forewarned of some great tragedy that will be bestowed upon in the near future by the Oracle of Delphi. Even armed with this knowledge the hero seems be already destined to be on a path that will lead them to their demise regardless of how he or she may try to change the circumstances. The modern day equivalent is regardless of how many boom and busts that we stumble from one to next, humans seem to be destined to repeat the mistakes in a never endless loop of success from failure leading to failure from success and so on. For me having a mindset that is aware of these risks and looks for the tale tail signs at an early stage before they are given a change to develop is an important trait of a project manager
Dear Daire
Thanks for your comment
Does this prevent us, as project managers, from taking a positive approach about the team and their people or about the project?
What came to prove Rosenthal's Experiment?
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1 reply by Daire Guiney
Dec 22, 2019 11:05 AM
Daire Guiney
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I think we are our own greatest judges and some people are the conditioned to eagerly please and impress other people be it teachers or parents. As we grow and mature are own ambitions are desires should be the only thing that truly motivates us and not the ambitions of others that are placed into us. Making the step into independent and educated thinkers for some people is a life long goal where they have developed their own personality independent of the educational institutes and societies that they have grown up in.The Pygmalion effect and associated Rosenthal's experiment could be explained by transference i.e. the coach, parents or teachers own motivation being intertwined with an individual own motivation and confusing an individual.
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