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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
All project managers have to make decisions

Do you systematically follow a decision-making process?

Want to share with us your insight on the subject?

If you use a decision-making process, what steps do you consider?
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Jan 06, 2020 2:13 PM
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Dear Thomas
Thank you for your opinion.

The article you shared on the link has a set of important tips to consider before making a decision.
Interestingly it ends: "How do you make big decisions?"

Do you usually use a process when you have to make decisions?

Do you often consult with people who will be impacted by your decision before you make it?
Luis

I use different ways to come to decisions, not only one process.
The 'processes' I saw in this post are in my view mostly problem solution steps. They do not talk much about stakeholders involved.

As I wrote before, as example for a process the project change decision (approve/reject) is normally a formal process included in the Project Management Plan (or even the contract).

In decision meetings I strive for consensus of the group/team, if there is a major dissent, it might require an breakout before reaching the consensus.

A good analog is a hospital when doctors enter a concilium and make decisions about treatments, or the triage in case of catastrophe treatment when only one doctor makes live or die decisions.

I have seen many make decisions based on input from (several) subject matter experts, so I belief the decision maker must not be an expert at all. In most governments and corporations the people who decide up the ladder are no experts.

Having worked with Japanese a lot, they way they make decisions is a lengthy process involving all stakeholders (Ringi), decisions are accepted by all parties thru the process and are stable since real consensus is reached.

In time critical situations, I might decide by myself.

And yes, I strive to 'socialize' the context and content of the decision.
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2 replies by Adrian Carlogea and Luis Branco
Jan 06, 2020 9:37 PM
Adrian Carlogea
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"I have seen many make decisions based on input from (several) subject matter experts, so I belief the decision maker must not be an expert at all. In most governments and corporations the people who decide up the ladder are no experts. "

Dear Thomas,

Making a decision requires appropriate knowledge. If you don't have the knowledge you can't make the decision even if you have the authority.

Let's assume that you are the CEO of a company but you have absolutely no knowledge about the domain of that company. Your experts come to you with different proposals, how are you going to decide which is the good proposal if you can't even talk in the experts technical language? You can't. You can either approve or reject their proposals but your decision will really be based on nothing.

Executive managers and politicians are primarily strategists, they make strategic decisions but when it comes to actual implementation and solution development, unless they are experts themselves, don't make decisions.

Think of a football club. The management of the club may hire a manager(coach) to lead their sports team but once they hire him usually they don't get involved in the process of leading the team.

The club management does not make team related decisions after consulting the coach, instead the coach makes such decisions. The coach is the SME and he is hired to make the decisions.

In the corporate world usually among the executives there is also at least one expert in the main domain of the company. Many times the CEO himself was once an expert.
Jan 08, 2020 4:28 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Thomas
Thank you for your opinion

I think it is an excellent contribution

Thanks for sharing the method used by the Japanese to make decisions:
- RINGI (SHO)

that reminded me of:
- NEMAWASHI

It's always so rewarding to read your comments.
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Adrian Carlogea Australia
Jan 06, 2020 3:34 PM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Luis

I use different ways to come to decisions, not only one process.
The 'processes' I saw in this post are in my view mostly problem solution steps. They do not talk much about stakeholders involved.

As I wrote before, as example for a process the project change decision (approve/reject) is normally a formal process included in the Project Management Plan (or even the contract).

In decision meetings I strive for consensus of the group/team, if there is a major dissent, it might require an breakout before reaching the consensus.

A good analog is a hospital when doctors enter a concilium and make decisions about treatments, or the triage in case of catastrophe treatment when only one doctor makes live or die decisions.

I have seen many make decisions based on input from (several) subject matter experts, so I belief the decision maker must not be an expert at all. In most governments and corporations the people who decide up the ladder are no experts.

Having worked with Japanese a lot, they way they make decisions is a lengthy process involving all stakeholders (Ringi), decisions are accepted by all parties thru the process and are stable since real consensus is reached.

In time critical situations, I might decide by myself.

And yes, I strive to 'socialize' the context and content of the decision.
"I have seen many make decisions based on input from (several) subject matter experts, so I belief the decision maker must not be an expert at all. In most governments and corporations the people who decide up the ladder are no experts. "

Dear Thomas,

Making a decision requires appropriate knowledge. If you don't have the knowledge you can't make the decision even if you have the authority.

Let's assume that you are the CEO of a company but you have absolutely no knowledge about the domain of that company. Your experts come to you with different proposals, how are you going to decide which is the good proposal if you can't even talk in the experts technical language? You can't. You can either approve or reject their proposals but your decision will really be based on nothing.

Executive managers and politicians are primarily strategists, they make strategic decisions but when it comes to actual implementation and solution development, unless they are experts themselves, don't make decisions.

Think of a football club. The management of the club may hire a manager(coach) to lead their sports team but once they hire him usually they don't get involved in the process of leading the team.

The club management does not make team related decisions after consulting the coach, instead the coach makes such decisions. The coach is the SME and he is hired to make the decisions.

In the corporate world usually among the executives there is also at least one expert in the main domain of the company. Many times the CEO himself was once an expert.
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Peter Rapin Subject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent Consultant Ontario, Canada
Adrian: you are confusing me. You say the management of the club hire a manager (coach) who in turn makes the decisions.However he is the manager not the SME. He may have been at one time (QB, linebacker, receiver, whatever) but is not now. The SMEs are the players - the current experts. So, you hire a number of SMEs (players) and then hire a project manager (coach) who's expertise is to get the SMEs to work collaboratively to, hopefully, successfully deliver the project. Note that the coach is a SME in his own right.
Using that analogy, the manager (coach) makes the macro-decisions whereas the SMEs (players) make the micro-decisions. As the coach, project managers are SMEs in their own right, that of project delivery.
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1 reply by Adrian Carlogea
Jan 06, 2020 11:01 PM
Adrian Carlogea
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Sorry for the confusion. Blame the British people not me. :P

In some countries like the UK the coach of a football team is know as the manager.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manager_(association_football)

"In association football, a manager is an occupation of head coach in the United Kingdom responsible for running a football club or a national team. Outside the British Isles and across most of Europe, a title of head coach or coach is predominant."

Please forget about manager I meant coach or head coach but in the UK the coach is known as the manager for some reasons. It is confusing indeed but the UK football team manager is not really a manager in the traditional sense.

The coach is an SME because in order to become one you must have either been a former player or you need deep technical knowledge about the game. Being a brilliant football player does not automatically qualifies you to be a good coach but not having good subject matter expertise in the game automatically disqualifies you.

So the coach (manager in the UK) is the equivalent of a technical lead rather that an project manager.

Hope is more clear now. :)
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Adrian Carlogea Australia
Jan 06, 2020 10:36 PM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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Adrian: you are confusing me. You say the management of the club hire a manager (coach) who in turn makes the decisions.However he is the manager not the SME. He may have been at one time (QB, linebacker, receiver, whatever) but is not now. The SMEs are the players - the current experts. So, you hire a number of SMEs (players) and then hire a project manager (coach) who's expertise is to get the SMEs to work collaboratively to, hopefully, successfully deliver the project. Note that the coach is a SME in his own right.
Using that analogy, the manager (coach) makes the macro-decisions whereas the SMEs (players) make the micro-decisions. As the coach, project managers are SMEs in their own right, that of project delivery.
Sorry for the confusion. Blame the British people not me. :P

In some countries like the UK the coach of a football team is know as the manager.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manager_(association_football)

"In association football, a manager is an occupation of head coach in the United Kingdom responsible for running a football club or a national team. Outside the British Isles and across most of Europe, a title of head coach or coach is predominant."

Please forget about manager I meant coach or head coach but in the UK the coach is known as the manager for some reasons. It is confusing indeed but the UK football team manager is not really a manager in the traditional sense.

The coach is an SME because in order to become one you must have either been a former player or you need deep technical knowledge about the game. Being a brilliant football player does not automatically qualifies you to be a good coach but not having good subject matter expertise in the game automatically disqualifies you.

So the coach (manager in the UK) is the equivalent of a technical lead rather that an project manager.

Hope is more clear now. :)
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Adrian Carlogea Australia
Many people have the misconception that leadership is a job or a profession in its own right. This is false. Leadership is a set of skills that can be learned and applied in addition to your own profession or line of work. Leadership is linked to a line of work or a broader domain.

There are no such thing as subject matter experts in leadership. In order to become a leader you must first be a SME in a concrete domain then if you have leadership potential and you learn you ca lead a group of SMEs from your own domain.

If you prove to be a good leader for the SMEs then you can progress to a more strategic leadership role where you would focus less on (direct) people leadership.
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Adrian

my experience is different from what you describe. My professional life since 1988 showed that I made decisions without being a SME but listening to SMEs. For example I was called to review a SAP rollout without any SAP knowledge, and then was asked to run this and sunsequent SAP rollouts for 5 years.

Yes, there are leaders that were SMEs before, there are also some that were and are not.
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Jan 07, 2020 4:01 AM
Adrian Carlogea
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Dear Thomas,

I don't want to offend you in anyway but I have seen a lot IT PMs "running" IT Projects despite not having the slightest understanding of the technical aspects involved.

These PMs did play an important role overall for the project but they were not making any kind of decisions related to work the team was doing. When you "listen" to the SME it is the SME who really makes the decision and not you. For you it may seem that you are making the decision but in reality you have no alternative to what the SME tells you. You have to accept his solution as you are unable to challenge it or come with an alternative.

If the SME says that some actions have to be performed in order to complete the work then your so called decision would always be that those actions have to be performed. So who is really the decision maker?

The only instance when a PM can decide to stop the team members from doing something is when there is no budget for that peace of work or the requirement is out of scope and the client hasn't agreed to pay for a change request yet. So the PMs go/no go decision is based purely on budget. Non-technical PMs can't make any real work related decision and are not perceived as leaders by the project team members. Those that do try to make work related decision without proper knowledge would just bother the team.
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Adrian Carlogea Australia
Jan 07, 2020 1:10 AM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Adrian

my experience is different from what you describe. My professional life since 1988 showed that I made decisions without being a SME but listening to SMEs. For example I was called to review a SAP rollout without any SAP knowledge, and then was asked to run this and sunsequent SAP rollouts for 5 years.

Yes, there are leaders that were SMEs before, there are also some that were and are not.
Dear Thomas,

I don't want to offend you in anyway but I have seen a lot IT PMs "running" IT Projects despite not having the slightest understanding of the technical aspects involved.

These PMs did play an important role overall for the project but they were not making any kind of decisions related to work the team was doing. When you "listen" to the SME it is the SME who really makes the decision and not you. For you it may seem that you are making the decision but in reality you have no alternative to what the SME tells you. You have to accept his solution as you are unable to challenge it or come with an alternative.

If the SME says that some actions have to be performed in order to complete the work then your so called decision would always be that those actions have to be performed. So who is really the decision maker?

The only instance when a PM can decide to stop the team members from doing something is when there is no budget for that peace of work or the requirement is out of scope and the client hasn't agreed to pay for a change request yet. So the PMs go/no go decision is based purely on budget. Non-technical PMs can't make any real work related decision and are not perceived as leaders by the project team members. Those that do try to make work related decision without proper knowledge would just bother the team.
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Jan 07, 2020 4:59 AM
Thomas Walenta
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Dear Adrian,

no offense perceived. It is a discussion that took place many times before and I guess 80% of project managers share your belief, so you are on the safe side. I stick with my view, since it is the story of my life and a key reason of my happiness. There are more things on this world than one man can know.

Yes, I have seen many IT project managers fail, even if they are good SMEs. Rarely good leaders fail, as they know how to handle the team, the customer, the environment.

There are techniques to ensure that expertise is appropriately considered on a project (or any organization). For example checks and balances, peer and compliance reviews, requiring multiple options to be considered, having an architect supervising SMEs. Construction PMs could tell how to ensure that no single SME makes important decisions.

The wider problem I see is that as long this a popular perspective (with PMs and even more with business), we will make no sufficient progress with improving project management itself. So business continue to hire PMs only if they are SMEs and they get rarely someone who is good at both. That is a reason why so many projects fail.
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Jan 07, 2020 4:01 AM
Replying to Adrian Carlogea
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Dear Thomas,

I don't want to offend you in anyway but I have seen a lot IT PMs "running" IT Projects despite not having the slightest understanding of the technical aspects involved.

These PMs did play an important role overall for the project but they were not making any kind of decisions related to work the team was doing. When you "listen" to the SME it is the SME who really makes the decision and not you. For you it may seem that you are making the decision but in reality you have no alternative to what the SME tells you. You have to accept his solution as you are unable to challenge it or come with an alternative.

If the SME says that some actions have to be performed in order to complete the work then your so called decision would always be that those actions have to be performed. So who is really the decision maker?

The only instance when a PM can decide to stop the team members from doing something is when there is no budget for that peace of work or the requirement is out of scope and the client hasn't agreed to pay for a change request yet. So the PMs go/no go decision is based purely on budget. Non-technical PMs can't make any real work related decision and are not perceived as leaders by the project team members. Those that do try to make work related decision without proper knowledge would just bother the team.
Dear Adrian,

no offense perceived. It is a discussion that took place many times before and I guess 80% of project managers share your belief, so you are on the safe side. I stick with my view, since it is the story of my life and a key reason of my happiness. There are more things on this world than one man can know.

Yes, I have seen many IT project managers fail, even if they are good SMEs. Rarely good leaders fail, as they know how to handle the team, the customer, the environment.

There are techniques to ensure that expertise is appropriately considered on a project (or any organization). For example checks and balances, peer and compliance reviews, requiring multiple options to be considered, having an architect supervising SMEs. Construction PMs could tell how to ensure that no single SME makes important decisions.

The wider problem I see is that as long this a popular perspective (with PMs and even more with business), we will make no sufficient progress with improving project management itself. So business continue to hire PMs only if they are SMEs and they get rarely someone who is good at both. That is a reason why so many projects fail.
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 06, 2020 10:02 AM
Replying to Peter Rapin
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I see from reading some of the responses that people are not differentiating project decisions from personal. In my experience, project decisions are rarely made in isolation. As a project manager or SME I don't recall ever taking a problem into my little space and then coming out with the answer with thoughts of imposing it on the team.
Typically the problems comes from/through the team, the problem is defined with the team and the team participates throughout the process. The decisions is made with the team. I may have taken some time - leave it with me for a couple days - and then comeback for a final go. If its an HR issue or high level concern (not direct project team related) the interaction is with senior management, but rarely alone. This does not mean I can't make decisions that are mine to make, only that the project decision process must be transparent in order to achieve acceptance.
Dear Peter
Thanks for your feedback

If you involve the team in the decision making process and communicate the decision effectively, you have people with you
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 06, 2020 10:04 AM
Replying to RAJON BANERJEE
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Dear Luis,

These are very close questions, however I am trying to elaborate the same:

1. A decision is communicated without consulting you.

Ans: I think this is a forcible scenario. These can come in two circumstances giving example in below:

A. Organization Level: When any organization decide any strategic movement then this such kind of communication give to all employee.
Sr. management involve on that & no bargain/argument is allowed with this regards.

B. Project Level: Say project in critical phase & need extra hour to complete the deliverables. Then manager can issue general mail to provide extra effort or increase working hours to every team member.

Such type of communication is by default a forcing in nature.

2. You are consulted before making any decision.

Ans: Assume I am a Sr. team member & manager asked me a crucial decision. Say performance of a particular team member & allote the working grade. However, as a sr. team member I have to disclose all to my manager regarding this team member. I think here I need to follow respect & honesty to make such decision. It could be anything. Just I am mentioning sample example.

Now, coming to your answer, acceptance of these two aforesaid scenario.

1. I usually not support the forceive decision. But here is also one point. What is the situation? Means situational decision making strategy.

2. Here also I need to think before placing a decision what will be the impact or counter effect. It could goes positive or negative both are the possibilities in here & it's very sensitive. Because, anything happen it's directly/indirectly affect me.

But, I will go with 2. Not with 1. Because as a senior member I need to take this responsibility.

However, this is the justification from my end.

Like to know your opinion also on this.

Thanks,
Rajon
Dear Rajon
Thank you for sharing your opinion

My questions were asked you to answer yourself (listening to your voice)

Depending on the answer you got (from within), start working with these answers in mind

It is more effective to involve people in the decision making process.
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