LORI WILSONRETIRED - Technical Project Manager| RETIRED - LifePoint HealthClarkston, Wa, United States
Jan 08, 2020 11:06 AM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Lori
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion
You addressed a very important point: "To me, it is an impartial way of treating your teammates, giving everyone the same treatment in spite of favoritism or discrimination"
What tells you that you're being fair?
Changing the subject
Yesterday, for professional reasons, it was completely impossible for me to watch your webinar
Do you know when ProjectManagement.com will make it available on the platform?
Your question: What tells you that you're being fair? My thoughtful response would be - maintaining an open mind, asking the other person to ensure they believe I treated them fairly, trusting my instincts and experience....but, you made me realize some of this may be subjective.
Your question about the webinar? I'm not sure, but I hope it is available soon. I really enjoyed the process and have connected with people from all around the globe offering some resources, some encouragement and feel enormously blessed for the opportunity!
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 08, 2020 2:02 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Lori
Thanks for your comment
If we are commanded from within and if we hear our inner voice, I am convinced that we will know if we are being righteous ... or not.
I am sorry I did not attend the webinar online.
I will definitely listen on-demand
And ... I will give my opinion :-)
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 08, 2020 1:48 PM
Replying to LORI WILSON
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Your question: What tells you that you're being fair? My thoughtful response would be - maintaining an open mind, asking the other person to ensure they believe I treated them fairly, trusting my instincts and experience....but, you made me realize some of this may be subjective.
Your question about the webinar? I'm not sure, but I hope it is available soon. I really enjoyed the process and have connected with people from all around the globe offering some resources, some encouragement and feel enormously blessed for the opportunity!
Dear Lori
Thanks for your comment
If we are commanded from within and if we hear our inner voice, I am convinced that we will know if we are being righteous ... or not.
I am sorry I did not attend the webinar online.
I will definitely listen on-demand
And ... I will give my opinion :-) Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Luis
Being fair is important but yet, not easy because you have to strike a balance between being fair with your team, fair with your client, you project, your company and yourself.
When it comes to fairness, you sometimes encounter situations where you have to prioritize and chose, not always easy to balance all those five.
RK
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 08, 2020 4:48 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
The point you made is important: strike a balance of interests between the different stakeholders
Do you think that favoring one party over the other can be unfair, is that it?
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 08, 2020 2:21 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Luis
Being fair is important but yet, not easy because you have to strike a balance between being fair with your team, fair with your client, you project, your company and yourself.
When it comes to fairness, you sometimes encounter situations where you have to prioritize and chose, not always easy to balance all those five.
RK
Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
The point you made is important: strike a balance of interests between the different stakeholders
Do you think that favoring one party over the other can be unfair, is that it?
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Jan 08, 2020 5:35 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Luis
You can't favor any party, you only do what is best for the project and organization. You have an ethical responsibility towards that.
If you can't strike a balance, then define your priorities and take it from there. You can't be always fair to everyone. Sometimes circumstances do impose certain restrictions.
RK
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 08, 2020 12:15 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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In the scenario I provided, if the PM held back from informing the team about the recommendation and decision to cancel the project till the last minute, that would certainly be considered unfair. Even more, if the PM only informed certain team members but not others, that would definitely be unfair.
Kiron
Dear Kiron
Thanks for your feedback
We agree.
Favoring some team members over others is a matter of fairness, clearly
When the Project Manager is a transparent person in the processes and results, it is his obligation to inform the team in a timely manner. Saving Changes...
Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 08, 2020 12:51 PM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Dear Luis,
To us, it is our conscience.
Stakeholders, they see us bias when they don't like a decision!
Dear Vincent
Thanks for your feedback
As regards justice, there will be two weights and two measures
One thing is the law, which is often created to benefit certain interest groups.
Another thing, completely different is the
justice, based on Principles governing humanity and dictated by our conscience Saving Changes...
Thomas WalentaGlobal Project Economy ExpertHackenheim, Germany
Well, we all signed up to the PMI Code of Ethics which defines the value of fairness and sets examplary behaviors that show how not to be fair.
Sometimes fairness can be seen straightforward, in many occasions being fair might contradict other values from the Code (e.g. responsibility). Then we need judgement to decide, without own experience or a belief system we adhere to we need help of others.
Fairness is a value shared by most humans in most cultures (Rushworth Kidder). Some research says it is a evolutionary build emotion (David Rock). We feel it if others are treated unfairly and react negatively.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 09, 2020 2:54 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Thomas
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
Your contributions are always "brain food"
True, we all signed the PMI Code of Ethics
How many of us read the code of ethics?
How many of us have discussed the PMI Code of Ethics Principles?
How many of us practice and / or respect the PMI Code of Ethics Principles?
Want to talk (write) a little more about this important topic: "Then we need judgment to decide, without own experience or belief system we need to help others"
Thanks for sharing: "Fairness is a value shared by most humans in most cultures (Rushworth Kidder)"
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 08, 2020 4:48 PM
Replying to Luis Branco
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Dear Rami
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
The point you made is important: strike a balance of interests between the different stakeholders
Do you think that favoring one party over the other can be unfair, is that it?
Luis
You can't favor any party, you only do what is best for the project and organization. You have an ethical responsibility towards that.
If you can't strike a balance, then define your priorities and take it from there. You can't be always fair to everyone. Sometimes circumstances do impose certain restrictions.
RK
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 09, 2020 3:07 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Rami
Thank you for your opinion:
"You can't favor any party, you only do what is best for the project and organization. You have an ethical responsibility towards that "
What to do when what is best for the project and the company is not fair?
You wrote: "If you can't strike a balance, then set your priorities and take it from there!"
What criteria do you think we should use to define our priorities?
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Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Fairness does not necessary mean equality. Equality means everyone gets the same thing. Fairness means everyone gets what is appropriate to them. A prime example of fairness is income taxes.
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1 reply by Luis Branco
Jan 09, 2020 3:37 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Stéphane
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
There are many people who think fairness is the same as equity
You gave an interesting example:
"A prime example of fairness is income taxes"
Your comment is about tax and tax legislation.
This is a recent practice in the history of mankind and, interestingly, taxes were created to support the splendid life of rulers :-)
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Luis BrancoCEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, LdªCarcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Jan 08, 2020 5:28 PM
Replying to Thomas Walenta
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Well, we all signed up to the PMI Code of Ethics which defines the value of fairness and sets examplary behaviors that show how not to be fair.
Sometimes fairness can be seen straightforward, in many occasions being fair might contradict other values from the Code (e.g. responsibility). Then we need judgement to decide, without own experience or a belief system we adhere to we need help of others.
Fairness is a value shared by most humans in most cultures (Rushworth Kidder). Some research says it is a evolutionary build emotion (David Rock). We feel it if others are treated unfairly and react negatively.
Dear Thomas
Thank you for participating in this reflection and for your opinion.
Your contributions are always "brain food"
True, we all signed the PMI Code of Ethics
How many of us read the code of ethics?
How many of us have discussed the PMI Code of Ethics Principles?
How many of us practice and / or respect the PMI Code of Ethics Principles?
Want to talk (write) a little more about this important topic: "Then we need judgment to decide, without own experience or belief system we need to help others"
Thanks for sharing: "Fairness is a value shared by most humans in most cultures (Rushworth Kidder)"
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1 reply by Thomas Walenta
Jan 09, 2020 6:47 AM
Thomas Walenta
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How many read the Code?
I guess less than 50%. A survey showed that of 100 PMs saying ethics is important, less than 50 cared about it in their work.
If you are a responsible PM signing something, you should 1. read it and 2. comply to it. Simple.
I served 6 years on PMI‘s Ethics Review Committee and it changed my view.
Good things happen when you are with PMI.
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