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Gongyuan Chen Senior Agile Coach| Serfu Enterprise Consulting (Hongkong) Co., Ltd. China, Mainland
PMI acquired DAD, will ACP and DAD be integrated into a new certification system?
I personally suggest that the two should be integrated into a certification system,
Since 2002, the recognition of ACP certification has been weak. New stimulus and market planning are needed to attract more attention and join the certification.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Gongyuan

They won't be integrated into one certification at least for now. PMI-ACP and DA will both complement each other. Check the new certifications structure here: https://disciplinedagiledelivery.com/

RK
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Gongyuan -

it is interesting that you state the recognition of ACP has been weak. I have seen it referenced in job postings and it is PMI's third most popular certification with over 30000 certified so nowhere near the number of CSMs and PSM I's but still respectable.

As Rami has indicated, PMI has published a roadmap for their agile certifications and I would expect it to evolve over the course of 2020.

Kiron
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3 replies by Gongyuan Chen and Kiron Bondale
Jan 21, 2020 9:53 PM
Gongyuan Chen
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Since 2002, only 30,000 people and certifications have been obtained in 17 years. The slow development further illustrates the competitiveness of the market
Jan 21, 2020 9:53 PM
Gongyuan Chen
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sorry, i may be biased, please don't mind
Jan 22, 2020 7:38 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Gongyuan -

Why do you say 2002? The ACP is not even 10 years old right now - I believe it was formally launched in 2014?

Kiron
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Gongyuan Chen Senior Agile Coach| Serfu Enterprise Consulting (Hongkong) Co., Ltd. China, Mainland
Thanks all,
ACP does not involve scale
My personal opinion:
ACP and DAD integration is more competitive and widely recognized in the market, as well as more interests and hobbyists
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Gongyuan Chen Senior Agile Coach| Serfu Enterprise Consulting (Hongkong) Co., Ltd. China, Mainland
Jan 21, 2020 5:35 PM
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Gongyuan -

it is interesting that you state the recognition of ACP has been weak. I have seen it referenced in job postings and it is PMI's third most popular certification with over 30000 certified so nowhere near the number of CSMs and PSM I's but still respectable.

As Rami has indicated, PMI has published a roadmap for their agile certifications and I would expect it to evolve over the course of 2020.

Kiron
Since 2002, only 30,000 people and certifications have been obtained in 17 years. The slow development further illustrates the competitiveness of the market
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Gongyuan Chen Senior Agile Coach| Serfu Enterprise Consulting (Hongkong) Co., Ltd. China, Mainland
Jan 21, 2020 5:35 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Gongyuan -

it is interesting that you state the recognition of ACP has been weak. I have seen it referenced in job postings and it is PMI's third most popular certification with over 30000 certified so nowhere near the number of CSMs and PSM I's but still respectable.

As Rami has indicated, PMI has published a roadmap for their agile certifications and I would expect it to evolve over the course of 2020.

Kiron
sorry, i may be biased, please don't mind
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Jan 21, 2020 5:35 PM
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Gongyuan -

it is interesting that you state the recognition of ACP has been weak. I have seen it referenced in job postings and it is PMI's third most popular certification with over 30000 certified so nowhere near the number of CSMs and PSM I's but still respectable.

As Rami has indicated, PMI has published a roadmap for their agile certifications and I would expect it to evolve over the course of 2020.

Kiron
Gongyuan -

Why do you say 2002? The ACP is not even 10 years old right now - I believe it was formally launched in 2014?

Kiron
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2 replies by Gongyuan Chen and Rami Kaibni
Jan 22, 2020 4:02 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Kiron, I was surprised as well !
Jan 23, 2020 10:10 PM
Gongyuan Chen
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So sorry?it's 2012
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jan 22, 2020 7:38 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Gongyuan -

Why do you say 2002? The ACP is not even 10 years old right now - I believe it was formally launched in 2014?

Kiron
Kiron, I was surprised as well !
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
It looks like ACP and the DAD certifications might be filling different markets. I will be taking my ACP next month because clients are now seeking project managers with an agile background. Not Scrum, not DAD, just Agile.
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Gongyuan Chen Senior Agile Coach| Serfu Enterprise Consulting (Hongkong) Co., Ltd. China, Mainland
Jan 22, 2020 7:38 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Gongyuan -

Why do you say 2002? The ACP is not even 10 years old right now - I believe it was formally launched in 2014?

Kiron
So sorry?it's 2012
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Jan 24, 2020 8:42 AM
Kiron Bondale
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You are correct, Gongyuan - it was 2012, not 2014.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Jan 23, 2020 10:10 PM
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So sorry?it's 2012
You are correct, Gongyuan - it was 2012, not 2014.
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1 reply by Gongyuan Chen
Jan 27, 2020 11:31 PM
Gongyuan Chen
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Thanks
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